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[edit]This article is really badly named, since its subject was called Spider-Man, not Spiderman: The Animated Series.
That said, I'm leaving decisions about the correct title/disambiguation to someone more thoughtful than myself, since there are also three other animated TV series called Spider-Man...
There is some sloppy grammar in this article. I'll fix it later, but anyone else with a keen editor's eye should feel free to pitch in.
- Thats because I wrote it..sorry :( - UnlimitedAccess 08:57, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
"The show is generally considered by fans to be the most true to source"
[edit]I removed this section from the article because
1. It falls under Wikipedia's "weasel words" rule
2. I'm pretty sure i've seen another animated Spider-man series that was actually a literal translation of the early comics to cartoon format, which would obviously be truer to source anyway.
Well, which one? The older Spiderman-Shows didn´t have many continuos storylines.77.13.141.28 (talk) 20:44, 17 August 2012 (UTC)
There should be a section that talks about some major plot differences with the comics. I would be happy to provide these examples with references. 76.110.11.45 (talk) 20:22, 18 January 2014 (UTC)
Plot Summary
[edit]Someone added this to the main Spider-Man page. I removed it because it didn't belong there but maybe someone can make use of it here. -- HKMARKS 16:02, 1 July 2006 (UTC)
THe web-swinger's longest-running show was Spider-Man: The Animated Series that ran in 1994-1998 with 65 episodes in five seasons. Spider-Man's first enemy in the series he fought was the Lizard, wore the black costume and met Nick Fury all in the first season. In the second season, he fought the Insidious Six, met Mary Jane Watson as Spider-Man, he met the X-Men, Morbius who turned into a vampire, the Punisher and suffered a disease that turned him into the Man-Spider. In the third season, Spider-Man meets Dr. Strange, Wong, Daredevil, Iron Man, War Machine and Madame Web, who warns him of an ultimate battle in the future. He figures out the Kingpin is Wilson Fisk as well, along with the Hobgoblin and Noman Osborn becomes the Green Goblin. He even loses Mary Jane Watson when she secretly fell into a dimensional portal from the Green Goblin. In the fourth season, Spider-Man meets Black Cat, Mirium and the Prowler. Harry Osborn becomes the second Green Goblin and everyone who knew Mary Jane meets the clone of her unbeknownst to them. Peter and Mary Jane's clone get engaged after he reveals his secret identity as Spider-Man to her and Spider-Man's enemy, Mysterio, dies in a fire. And finally, in the fifth season, Peter and the clone of Mary Jane get married, Spider-Man fights alongside with heroes from the Golden Age, learns of his family's past, realizes Mary Jane is a clone, fights in the Secret Wars and finally saves every reality from Spider-Carnage. After stopping Spider-Carnage, Madame Web agreed that Spider-Man should find Mary Jane and he should finally be entitled to some happiness. |
Separate Episode Articles
[edit]I really don't think there should be separate articles on every episode. Maybe they should be incorporated into something like List of Season # episodes in Spider-Man: The Animated Series. What do you think? May the Edit be with you. T-borg (drop me a line) 17:23, 17 September 2006 (UTC)
- I disagree. A lot of TV series are starting to have episodes created, so I don't see why Spiderman can't. Just because it is not as big as say Desperate Housewives, Prison Break (and all those that have all their episode pages), it doesn't mean it cant have episodes created. Davey4 05:35, 27 September 2006 (UTC)
I'm starting to see your point. Yet the current status of the episode articles earned them this. Any suggestions? May the Edit be with you. T-borg (drop me a line) 13:11, 27 September 2006 (UTC)
hi.anybody feel that this series ended abruptly? don't u want to see peter parker and mary jane united?
Hello~ In season 1, 4 and 5 were in wrong order??
Secret Wars
[edit]Good God, what is with this section? They're supposed to be summaries, not play-by-plays! --Shay Guy 19:05, 2 November 2006 (UTC)
Separate Article for Episode Section
[edit]Do you think it's a good idea to have separate article for the episodes section, since the episode section is half the size of the entire article.Gman124 01:30, 4 December 2006 (UTC)
- I moved the Episodes section to Spider-Man (1994 animated series) Episode List because it was really long and took up half the pageGman124 21:55, 4 December 2006 (UTC)
Distinction with the comics/movies
[edit]I haven't seen this in a while, but isn't it accurate that in the series, Spider-Man casts webs using little cylinders in this suit. Whereas in the movies, and possibly comics, Spider-Man can sling webs from inside him.
That was one of the major plays of the series that stopped Spider-Man pursuing and finishing off villians with a coup de grace - he'd often make reference to almost being out of web.
Someone confirm this/add it to the article? 58.107.150.168 12:13, 28 April 2007 (UTC) Rem.
- I've always thought that his webs were created by Peter Parker and not by the radioactive mutation, but I had based this off this TV show. A friend mentioned the same difference when the first movie came out, but I'm not sure whether he got this from the comics or not. Either way, I think a more general section detailing differences from the comics and the show would be a good idea. --Snaxe/fow (talk) 01:29, 7 August 2008 (UTC)
I am sure at 300% that peter parker create the web.Still have the picture in mind I've read all the comics (and reading them again). In the movie...... well it's a movie (that's shock me at the first time)
Peter created the web-shooters and the web cartridges himself, in the comics. Also in this show, which was the closest representation of the comics. However, Sony changed it for their movies to organic webs due to the complexity of the origin. It was a heated debate amongst comic aficionados when the first "Spider-Man" movie came out. But yes, Parker is a scientist and invented the webs himself. It's not a 'power' inherited from his radioactive mutation. Hope that clears it up. Viperpulse (talk) 19:06, 6 January 2010 (UTC)
- Absolutely. There was a brief time (between Spider-Man: The Other and Spider-Man: Brand New Day) when comic Spidey had organic webshooters, but for the majority of the time since his creation he's had mechanical ones. Planewalker Dave (talk) 20:28, 6 January 2010 (UTC)
I agree there should be a section that talks about some major plot differences with the comics. I would be happy to provide these examples with references. 76.110.11.45 (talk) 20:20, 18 January 2014 (UTC)
Also known as...
[edit]How did it become known as Spider-Man: The Animated Series? This title was never used in any of the episodes, and I haven't seen it in any promotional material either. It also isn't mentioned at all on the IMDb page (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0112175/). Perhaps it was only referenced this way by fans who were also familiar with Batman: The Animated Series, which used that title frequently in promotional material and is mentioned on its IMDb page (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0103359/). - 74.119.205.19 23:02, 3 June 2007 (UTC)
- Rather late, I know, but I think it is sorta related to Batman: TAS. That series started a whole new wave of animated series based on comic book characters, and the fact is, the cartoons were simply referred to by their superhero name (Spider-Man, Batman, Superman, X-Men). Later, Batman was identified as Batman: TAS, with Superman then named as such. I'm not sure whether Marvel or the animation studios ever referred to them as Spider-Man: TAS or X-Men: TAS, but they're commonly referred to as such to distinguish it from other X-Men and Spider-Man cartoons (I'm thinking mainly of the 60s Spider-Man cartoon, which as far as I know was also simply called Spider-Man). Plus, when reruns have aired on Jetix, I have heard them say "Spider-Man: The Animated Series." Anakinjmt 17:23, 27 October 2007 (UTC)
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Censorship
[edit]The first bullet point in the censor ship article is about the lack of words relating to "death" in later episodes. I just finished watching the first episode, "The Lizard". Kurt's wife asks "Kurt! Is he...?", leading me to believe that the avoidance of such words started from the beginning of the series. The section definitely needs more references if it's true at all. --Snaxe/fow (talk) 13:33, 24 July 2008 (UTC)
In the german version the word "death" is used in the first episodes but not in the later ones.77.13.148.89 (talk) 21:04, 4 December 2011 (UTC)
The word death is used in some episodes but sometimes they described death with other words. But you couldn´t say they never talked about death.77.13.141.28 (talk) 20:48, 17 August 2012 (UTC)
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Censorship Section
[edit]This has nothing to do with improving the article, but f*ck it, how much of the arguments on the talk pages honestly do. Are you guys sh*tting my d*ck off with this section?! I had no idea Fox was training kids to be unrealistic, delusion clowns for years. I was a Marine recruit instructor in the late 90s to early 2000s and this explains why so many of the recruits were borderline retarded about the real world.
I for one am happy that entertainment has gradually evolved from Happy Days and Saved By The Bell to The Dark Knight, Watchmen, and Saw. Even moronic shows like Jersey Shore show a glipse of reality in comparison. Everyone should take a glipse of what the real world is like outside of the suburbs, and what life is like for thoese less fortunate. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.86.230.202 (talk) 22:38, 22 July 2010 (UTC)
You are right about the censorship but the fact that you were a marine has nothing to do with the article and it was your own decision to go to the marines.88.71.157.194 (talk) 20:45, 23 September 2011 (UTC)
Removal of "censorship" section
[edit]The premise for that section, that the show was intentionally censored to stop the show from being banned in some countries, is based on [1], which is not at all a reliable source. As such, we have no reliable, verified evidence that show was "censored"; or that if it was censored, the censorship was unusual; or even if it was unusual, the reasons behind the censorship. Furthermore, the "exceptions" were original research, based on collecting what one or more editors thought were "notable" exceptions to the policy. In one respect, the large list of exceptions makes me question the censorship in the first place. In any event, without reliable sources to support this, it needs to stay out of the article. Qwyrxian (talk) 01:09, 31 March 2011 (UTC)
It should be in the article again because the made-for children style led to mayor differences to the comics.88.71.157.194 (talk) 20:47, 23 September 2011 (UTC)
It´s me IP 88.71.157.194 again. I think you´re right after seeing many episodes again I wouldn´t say that there was real censorship. In the episode "turning point" e.g. they used the word "death" and eyou could see spiderman punching the goblin. So not every episode was free of violence, only some.77.13.141.28 (talk) 20:55, 17 August 2012 (UTC)
Netflix
[edit]From the article: "The entire series is currently available for instant streaming on Netflix."
Are the episodes on Netflix the originals, or the ones censored/edited by Disney later on? Josh (talk) 04:58, 17 August 2011 (UTC)
- From what I remember it's the originals Sean 22:11, 16 July 2012 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sean199813 (talk • contribs)
Marvel Animated Universe
[edit]This template should be removed, as the Marvel Animated Universe does not exist. --ProfessorKilroy (talk) 00:38, 29 October 2011 (UTC)
add "The Search for Mary Jane Watson: the Lost Episode" fan-fim to article
[edit]There is a live action fan-film in production, known as "The Search for Mary Jane Watson: the Lost Episode" set for release in June 2012, theirs a trailer for it online. Its based off the abandoned season 6 story featuring Spider-man searching through time for Mary Jane and battling Carnage. I saw a section for it a while ago, but it was deleated. I really think it should be included, it lets people know how popular the series STILL is, and it gives information to fans who want to see it. It should at least be included in the "Reception Section" or a "Legacy Section" You can find more information about it at influencefilms.com/spiderman.cfm. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.174.4.248 (talk) 17:53, 1 February 2012 (UTC)
No relevance because it´s fanfiction and not official. And why did he fight carnage and not the Goblin, who fell in the dimensionhole with Mary Jane?77.13.141.28 (talk) 20:58, 17 August 2012 (UTC)
Chris Smith message
[edit]Anyone know what the message said, I mean the vulgar one not the other in the article. I really wanna know cause it's weird thinking a show I watched as a 4-6 year old had vulgar messages in it. Sean 22:17, 16 July 2012 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sean199813 (talk • contribs)
2000 Video games
[edit]The 2000-2001 games, Spider-Man and Spider-Man 2: Enter Electro, although share voice casts from The animated series and Unlimited, it's not based on the show. The games are more like a "Mythology Pastiche" of characters. Venom is a more friendly and dumb-downed version. Electro and Captain America are trapped together with the Red Skull in the series and Electro had a different suit. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 189.180.118.122 (talk) 16:45, 13 September 2013 (UTC)
"As of February 2012, Marvel.com has uploaded every episode for streaming purposes, and they have been up since 2009"
[edit]1.This sentence makes no sense 2.I checked the link for this but it provides no video of any kind and I can't find any video of this series on Marvel's website. 148.88.244.26 (talk) 18:04, 24 May 2014 (UTC)
- Well, the link points to totally the wrong place (apparently to an article ABOUT episode 30? really?) and I don't know where exactly it should point, but the videos ARE listed on the site: http://marvel.com/search/?q=spider-man+1994&category=videos
- Not that they -work- of course. The links go to some kind of 404, but hey... -Joey- (talk) 23:56, 28 February 2015 (UTC)
Theme song
[edit]The instrumental theme song for the series (including the lyrics) was performed by Joe Perry of Aerosmith.
Err, what? If it is an instrumental, it doesn't have lyrics, no? Also, this is implying that 'Joe Perry performed the lyrics'. You don't perform lyrics. You write lyrics, you perform vocals. Which is this supposed to be saying he did? -Joey- (talk) 23:43, 28 February 2015 (UTC)
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Can someone ban this pathetic troll fanboy "Favorieguy2000" already
[edit]Every few months he drastically edits the Reception section (for the worse) without valid reason, he doesn't add any sources or refute any points to the existing information that has been added and agreed on by countless other users. He's also a confirmed biased fanboy for a "rival" Spider-Man tv series The Spectacular Spider-Man, which can be proven by his countless and incredibly lengthy laughably over-inflated hyperbolic fanboy edits to that shows page. Enough already. Protect the page from pathetic biased fanboy trolls like this or specifically ban him completely. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.194.110.123 (talk) 14:54, 15 December 2020 (UTC)
Censored material - source does not state anything of the sort
[edit]Article states: "The show was notorious for its censorship. In some episodes, realistic guns were depicted, but only in flashbacks, such as the showing of guns being fired during a flashback about the Punisher's origins where his wife was killed in the crossfire during a crime. Rules for the production of the show included no punching, throwing through glass, putting children in jeopardy or vampires as well as no usage of the word sinister."
Cited source states: "The reason it's not explicitly confirmed as suicide is due to the strict censorship rules that Spider-Man: The Animated Series was under at the time; death and firearms were played down." It makes no other mention about censorship requirements other than this that I can see.
The two don't correlate. Apart from acknowledging that there was "censorship" (also, "notorious for" seems like a hyped-term/weasel-word that is also not expressed by the source), this article lists a number of very specific things ("no punching, throwing through glass, putting children in jeopardy or vampires as well as no usage of the word sinister") that are not in the source and doesn't even attempt to mention the death/suicide limitation described. So where did that list of so-called censored material come from?
I think this might be a better source, but only with some rewriting of the text to more accurately cover the censorship requirements involved during production. https://screenrant.com/how-censors-changed-spider-man-1994-animated-series-marvel/
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