Talk:TurboGrafx-16
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id like for the pc engine and tg16 articles to be seperated
[edit]not everyone lives in america first thing first, japanese pce and western tg16 are nearly two years apart and drasticaly different game libraries, not unlike famicom and nes ZacharyFDS/Memphis1525 (talk) 04:33, 22 July 2024 (UTC)
- We don't have separate articles for the NES and Famicom, so I do not see how that supports your proposal. We don't have separate articles for any systems based on their having different names in different markets, nor do we separate based on some games for the system being released in some markets and not others. The fact that the PC Engine was a success in Japan and the TurboGrafx less so in the US is not a reason to split the either. I'm sorry, but I see nothing that supports the splitting of the article. oknazevad (talk) 05:02, 22 July 2024 (UTC)
- imo it should be where it was successful aka japan. i dont like this amerikan bias. not just political but also non political ZacharyFDS/Memphis1525 (talk) 05:52, 23 July 2024 (UTC)
- I think the article ought to be named PC Engine, it seems strange that a name from another country. Having said that, the weighting towards the USA on the English speaking wiki is unavoidable.Halbared (talk) 16:53, 30 August 2024 (UTC)
- pc engine and turbografx16 arent the same thing thats why i think it needs to be seperated. fuck this biased bullshit ZacharyFDS/Memphis1525 (talk) 17:31, 4 September 2024 (UTC)
- i dont want the games themselves to be seperated, just the consoles ZacharyFDS/Memphis1525 (talk) 15:14, 8 September 2024 (UTC)
- How exactly do you think they should be separated? Sceeegt (talk) 23:11, 27 September 2024 (UTC)
- split it between pc engine AND turbografx16. as for the games, add both systems to the list
- same applies for famicom/nes and super famicom/snes ZacharyFDS/Memphis1525 (talk) 12:45, 28 September 2024 (UTC)
- This won't just happen. If you really would like to see this, do it yourself in your sandbox and then ask editors here to see if it's doable and help. Make a start.Halbared (talk) 12:55, 28 September 2024 (UTC)
- While I agree the TG16 and PCE were marketed very differently between countries (the name, appearance, physical size, even the game library) the actual hardware is IDENTICAL as far as I'm aware (apart from likely regional differences, 50/60 Hz, PAL, etc). Even the I/O ports are identical, one DIN controller input, an RF-out port and rear expansion port with the same pin connector and raw signals. For all intents and purpose, the TurboGrafx-16 and PC-Engine are the same console, so it would not warrant separate articles. Note that the Genesis/Megadrive, Super Nintendo/Super Famicon, NES/Famicon or even the Vectrex (GCE vs Bandai vs Milton Bradley versions of the consoles, in the US and Europe) each have the consoles under one article. A mention of them within the article is valid (as has already been done here), even listing any and all difference, but not separate articles. As to why it's listed as TurboGrafx-16 and not PC Engine, I think that would fall under the common name guideline, with North American naming taking precedence. --Apple2gs (talk) 01:34, 30 September 2024 (UTC)
- Seconded. Separating the article into two for the purpose of region specificity makes no sense. We would have to split the Super Nintendo article into two, the NES article into two, the Master System article into god knows how many... There's no point in this whatsoever. —Kazinsal(t·c) 11:35, 2 October 2024 (UTC)
- I too agree that it does nothing but fracture the article and it isn't consistent with the SNES and NES articles either. Sceeegt (talk) 19:27, 8 October 2024 (UTC)
- ok fine im closing this discussion since youve got no intention to seperate them... ZacharyFDS/Memphis1525 (talk) 10:31, 27 October 2024 (UTC)
- I too agree that it does nothing but fracture the article and it isn't consistent with the SNES and NES articles either. Sceeegt (talk) 19:27, 8 October 2024 (UTC)
- Seconded. Separating the article into two for the purpose of region specificity makes no sense. We would have to split the Super Nintendo article into two, the NES article into two, the Master System article into god knows how many... There's no point in this whatsoever. —Kazinsal(t·c) 11:35, 2 October 2024 (UTC)
- While I agree the TG16 and PCE were marketed very differently between countries (the name, appearance, physical size, even the game library) the actual hardware is IDENTICAL as far as I'm aware (apart from likely regional differences, 50/60 Hz, PAL, etc). Even the I/O ports are identical, one DIN controller input, an RF-out port and rear expansion port with the same pin connector and raw signals. For all intents and purpose, the TurboGrafx-16 and PC-Engine are the same console, so it would not warrant separate articles. Note that the Genesis/Megadrive, Super Nintendo/Super Famicon, NES/Famicon or even the Vectrex (GCE vs Bandai vs Milton Bradley versions of the consoles, in the US and Europe) each have the consoles under one article. A mention of them within the article is valid (as has already been done here), even listing any and all difference, but not separate articles. As to why it's listed as TurboGrafx-16 and not PC Engine, I think that would fall under the common name guideline, with North American naming taking precedence. --Apple2gs (talk) 01:34, 30 September 2024 (UTC)
- This won't just happen. If you really would like to see this, do it yourself in your sandbox and then ask editors here to see if it's doable and help. Make a start.Halbared (talk) 12:55, 28 September 2024 (UTC)
- How exactly do you think they should be separated? Sceeegt (talk) 23:11, 27 September 2024 (UTC)
- I think the article ought to be named PC Engine, it seems strange that a name from another country. Having said that, the weighting towards the USA on the English speaking wiki is unavoidable.Halbared (talk) 16:53, 30 August 2024 (UTC)
- imo it should be where it was successful aka japan. i dont like this amerikan bias. not just political but also non political ZacharyFDS/Memphis1525 (talk) 05:52, 23 July 2024 (UTC)