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New changes

Hi all! I am adding a new section about Harper's suffrage activism. That said, I will be changing some headings around. I'm planning on changing all the sub-headings under the "working life" heading to regular headings. There is also some overlap between my draft and some of the published work, so I will be addressing that too in my edits. I also rephrased some of the "personal life" section at the end and added an image. HollyLovesHistory (talk) 19:07, 25 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Now that my reorganization is finished, I decided to condense some of the information. There were some pieces of information (such as those about Harper's teaching career) that were mentioned up to three times, so I fixed some of those repetitive parts. I also noticed that a lot of citations were missing, so I did my best to fix those, too. HollyLovesHistory (talk) 00:06, 28 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

From the current revision:

FYI, the first Hubbard footnote does not include this quote: "enslavement and abolitionism, human rights and dignity, women's rights and equality, racial and social justice, lynching and mob violence, voting rights, moral character, racial self-help and uplift, and multiracial cooperation for common good." I see this page is active, and I don't know where the quote comes from, so I figure someone more knowledgable can fix it. Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Solidmuldoon (talk • contribs) 22:58, 25 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

[...] Her first volume of verse, Forest Leaves, was published in 1845, the book was extremely popular and over the next few years went through 20 editions. [...]

[...] In 1892, she published a novel about a rescued black slave and the Reconstructed South, called Iola Leroy, which was the first book published by an African-American. [...]

Isn't that a contradiction? As far as I am concerned, this might mean either

(a) that Iola Leroy was the first novel (not "book") published by an African American; OR

(b) that Forest Leaves was published by a white publisher and Iola Leroy was the first book published by an African American publisher. <KF> 18:08, Mar 14, 2005 (UTC)

Zinn's A People's History of the United States says Iola Leroy or Shadows Uplifted was "the first novel published by a black woman." However, the direct source is not cited within the text. --Beefyt 06:21, 22 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

According to the Harriet E. Wilson article, the first novel written by a black american was Our Nig in 1859. I guess Forrest Leaves, being a collection of poetry, isn't relevant, but this page on UUA has some information about the book. I suggest that that the wording of this article be changed to "...one of the first novels published...," and the wikilink to Forrest Leaves be removed and replaced with some information about the book. --Beefyt 06:31, 22 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

deletion

I have deleted a whole chunk which was a shameless copy-and-paste from an external website. Surely this would be a copyright issue.Zigzig20s 06:44, 9 November 2007 (UTC) I am not sure, but I think that in the book about Harper called A brighter Coming Day by Frances S. Foster explain that the book Forest Leave is missing by the moment. Although it is true that exists many reference to it.[reply]

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Verifying sources

I have just failed the GA nomination for this article after checking two sources, supporting six different sentences, and finding that neither of those sources had any relevance to the sentences they supposedly supported. I have tagged the claims in question with {{Failed verification}}, but I have not yet checked any of the other sources. I am going to bed now, but have watchlisted the article and shall try to get back to it later in the week to check out some of the other sources. Caeciliusinhorto (talk) 22:09, 2 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Quickly looking before I switch off for the night, it looks like all of the problems I have spotted so far were added in ~~this edit~~this edit, so that's probably a good starting point for further digging. Caeciliusinhorto (talk) 22:13, 2 July 2019 (UTC) [fixed link 16:33, 3 July 2019 (UTC)][reply]

I think we should remove cites that fail verification. I am also seeing problems in works cited that link to incorrect sources. Also, one of the sources is classified as "Juvenile Nonfiction" by its publisher. Harper deserves a higher grade of source.Parkwells (talk) 16:23, 13 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Considering the length of time since this matter was discussed, I have removed the two citations which failed verification. The user who added them has apparently made no other contributions and is unlikely to revisit. --Midnightdreary (talk) 20:48, 15 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 29 July 2022

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: moved. —usernamekiran (talk) 15:44, 14 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Frances Harper → Frances Ellen Watkins Harper – I cannot find a single reference, much less Web site, that antedates Wikipedia and calls her by only two names. The four names were used routinely. She was from Maryland, and the Maryland State Archives uses the four names (https://msa.maryland.gov/msa/educ/exhibits/womenshallfame/html/harper.html). deisenbe (talk) 18:58, 29 July 2022 (UTC) — Relisting. Extraordinary Writ (talk) 21:10, 5 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Support per WP:COMMONNAME. Station1 (talk) 21:27, 2 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Comment. The commonest name actually appears to be Frances E. W. Harper. -- Necrothesp (talk) 12:29, 3 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.