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According to the recently published article by a young Bulgarian scholar, Agatha could have been the daughter of Gavril Radomir, Tsar of Bulgaria and his first wife, a Hungarian Princess. The Hungarian Princess was the daughter of King Géza István. The name Agatha was also the name of Tsar Gavril Radomir’s mother.

This hypothesis hasn't received any support as yet, as it doesn't fit with both filia germani imperatoris Henrici or noble Russian lady pieces of evidence. No medieval sources mention the Bulgarian trace of Agatha. The political motivation is absent. The onomastic argument is not better than for the Rurikid case, as in that family the name Agatha is common. The peculiar names of Agatha's children and grandchildren remain unexplained. Ghirlandajo 07:06, 1 Feb 2005 (UTC)


It is a bit incongruous to exclude this particlular solution entirely from Edward the Exile's article, and yet have it the only one given in the article for Edward's wife, entitled Agatha of Bulgaria. Given that an article exists for Agatha, it is on her page and not Edward's where this entire discussion is more appropriate (but not without 'moving' it to a name not expressing this particluar POV, such as "Agatha, wife of Edward the Exile").

That being said, if the goal is to present well-supported solutions, then perhaps they should all be taken out, as each of the proposed solutions contradicts at least one and usually several medieval sources. If instead the goal is to give a "synthesis of earlier publications on the subject of research" while excluding original research, then its prior publication means the Bulgarian solution is no less worthy than the Friesian or Augsburg solutions, and it deserves inclusion, with appropriate qualification. Excluding this particular wild guess while including the various other only-somewhat-less-wild guesses is hard to support. Agricolae 15 Sep 2006


The page should be merged with the more detailed page on the same person, Edgar the Aetheling. California Girl 21 (talk) 20:39, 6 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

But they aren't the same person. This one, Edward, was Edgar's father. Angus McLellan (Talk) 20:54, 6 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Ancestry

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Hello, I have an idea to add his ancestry:

Ancestors of Edward the Exile (1016–1057)[1][2]
8. Edgar the Peaceful[1][2]
4. Æthelred II the Unready[1][2]
9. Ælfthryth[1][2]
2. Edmund II Ironside[1][2]
10. Thored[1][2]/Æthelbert
5. Ælfgifu of York[1][2]
1. Edward the Exile[1][2]
6. Aelfthryth?
3. Ealdgyth[1][2]

Sources:

  • Bernard Burke, Ashworth P. Burke. A Genealogical and Heraldic History of the Peerage and Baronetage, the Privy Council, Knightage, and Companionage. 1934
  • Frederick Lewis Weis, Walter Lee Sheppard, William Ryland Beall, Kaleen E. Beall. Roots of Certain American Colonists who Came to America Before 1700: Lineages from Alfred the Great, Charlemagne, Malcolm of Scotland, Robert the Strong, and Other Historical Individuals 2008. ISBN 0806317523, ISBN 9780806317526

Additional source:

References

  1. ^ a b c d e f g h i Frederick Lewis Weis, Walter Lee Sheppard, William Ryland Beall, Kaleen E. Beall, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists who Came to America Before 1700: Lineages from Alfred the Great, Charlemagne, Malcolm of Scotland, Robert the Strong, and Other Historical Individuals, p. 2.
  2. ^ a b c d e f g h i Foundation of medieval genealogy: England, anglo-saxon & danish kings

Dmitry Azikov (talk) 02:15, 25 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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