Talk:John Redmond

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Good article. Though it seems fitting that something should be said about the Irish Volunteers and the National Volunteers within this article. Agree? -R. fiend

"Though large numbers of Irish men had willingly joined up, enforced conscription created a backlash that boosted Sinn Féin, the small monarchist party that had played no part in the Rising"

Sinn Fein is not a monarchist party as far as I know.

At the time the original plan by Arthur Griffith, the party's founder, called for a "dual-monarchy" between Britain and an independent Ireland. As more separatists joined the party, as an alternative to the Irish Party, the monarchy idea was dropped. However it didn't become an actively republican right away. So I'm going to change "republican" to "separatist", which I think is better than both "republican" and "monarchist", and I think it's relatively accurate. -R. fiend 04:53, 12 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Jan 5

The article on January 5 lists John Redmond as calling for rebellion in 1900. Should that be in this article somewhere?

Hmmm. No. Doesn't sound quite right to me. At least I'm sure it's not that simple. I'll try to look into it. -R. fiend 23:13, 16 Dec 2004 (UTC)

military career

how come there isnt any information on his miltary carrer during world war one, i believe the unit made progress on the somme. It would be nice to know his role in it, considering his son made Captain and won DSO. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Elephantstone (talk • contribs) 18:38, 29 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Rating

"Start" rating appears outdated, suggest justifies being up-rated to a "B" level ?? Osioni 21:14, 3 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I think this is quite a good article: however, the sentence near the end: "For the next forty years Ireland existed in a state of stagnant political paralysis." is quite extraordinary. Please keep articles objective and accurate. BopSmart 00:07, 3 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I'm taking an "out of hand" initiative in applying similar ratings has have been deemed fitting for Timothy Healy and Horace Plunkett since content, quality and prominance are certainly not less, with the exception of perhaps reluctance to tag Redmond with other than a "Start" Biography, or with "No" Ireland Portal rating ?. Osioni (talk) 15:38, 7 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Refrence to John Redmond's name in Irish

Is there any evidence that John Redmond ever used the Irish form of his name? It seems odd to include it in the heading of the article unless it was actually used by him or his followers in his lifetime. User:Kusala1952 10:29 29 December 2007 —Preceding comment was added at 10:31, 29 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Error

It says that he made a speech to Parliament after Gladstone's conversion to Home Rule in 1866. Though i'm no expert i highly doubt this as he would of been only 10 years old!

Sorry forgot to sign it, i feel like an idiot now!Willski72 (talk) 14:02, 3 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

thank you for making the point - gladly altered 1866 to correct date of 1886, with Greetings Osioni (talk) 09:41, 4 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks!Willski72 (talk) 17:34, 4 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

"because of his commitment to non-violence"?

This article is like an ode to Redmond. It's fundamentally lacking any criticism of him and is devoid of Wikipedia:Neutral point of view. An example of this is the above quote: "because of his commitment to non-violence". Is this the same John Redmond who in Woodenbridge Co Wicklow in 1914 infamously encouraged 100,000 Irish men to go and fight for the British Empire? Or is this not really "violence" because he was encouraging them to fight for British imperialism, rather than for Irish freedom? 79.97.64.240 (talk) 18:39, 12 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Bias in article

The last paragraph, the one using quotation, in the legacy section is very opinionated. I think if it is to be included it should simply be as the view of John Horgan (representing a sympathetic opinion) rather than as the view of wikipedia. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A02:C7D:86B:4A00:8D3E:76DF:DC8A:B951 (talk) 18:27, 29 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]