Talk:Crime film

This article

This article originated in material from a long article on crime fiction, and as such it shows a bias in talking about crime films and literature, rather than the crime film itself. It obviously needs some more material to provide a balanced article on the crime film. : ChrisG 15:42, 19 Dec 2003 (UTC)

The mere fact that it originated from a seperate article doesn't make it NPOV, but it certainly seems to contain a lot of rants about remakes and adaptations from books.

Needs Major Rewrite::

Wow. This article needs a serious, serious rewrite. I gave a few little swipes here and there, and will return later, but if someone from the film project wants to take a shot, have at it.

As noted above, this is taken from a larger article on crime fiction, and it shows. The article doesn't even mention film noir (except my l'il mention at the top. I took out some, but honestly I think the best take would be to start it over as a stub and rebuild. Jordoh 04:04, 27 January 2006 (UTC)

As the original author of this, I can only agree. I told ChrisG and others who were intent on separating this short text from the (then much longer) Crime fiction article more than two years ago that this would never do as an article in its own right, but they tended not to believe me. At the same time this text was removed from the main article so that Crime fiction now altogether lacks a discussion of how crime fiction is turned into film.

They also expressed the hope that someone would have a go at it in no time. Well, it is taking a bit longer, and with the growth of Wikipedia Crime film (or any other suitable title) should really be a comprehensive article on all aspects of the genre rather than just two or three random examples (which I think is fine if you just want to illustrate a point). I just realized that now we even have an article on Edgar Wallace movies, so a lot of work is waiting here. Good luck to all potential contributors! <KF> 10:54, 26 February 2006 (UTC)

Since no one apparently thought this was PoV, I removed the tag and replaced it with a clean-up tag. Ace of Sevens 11:51, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

Merged in Gangster film. Cwolfsheep 14:00, 9 July 2006 (UTC)

Redirects

There were a handful of mob related articles that were either merged into here or simply redirected. The ones I caught have been redirected to Organized crime in popular culture. If anyone wants to help flesh out the aforelinked article, please do so. It's in desperate need of some real analysis/prose subsection leads. MrZaius^talk 16:27, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

Subgenres

The information in the Subgenres section of this Article - is mostly wrong. קולנואני (talk) 22:16, 4 May 2011 (UTC)

Crime films vs Detective films

I'd like to see citations of film historians who categorize mysteries and police procedurals as sub-genres of crime films. I don't buy it. Mysteries and police procedurals are about solving crimes; they are detective films. Crime films, in movie parlance, are about committing crimes. If a Hollywood producer hired you to write a "crime film", and you turned in a screenplay about a detective solving a crime, he would be unhappy. --Tysto (talk) 01:46, 6 January 2013 (UTC)

Film Noir

Film Noir is not a genre or a sub-genre, but rather a style of film. A heist film or a science fiction film, as examples, can be filmed in the film noir style. L. Thomas W. (talk) 23:25, 7 March 2017 (UTC)

Detective film as sub genre to crime film just as detective fiction is sub genre of crime film?

The entry for these film sub genres has both mystery film & police procedural... redundant? coterminous? analogous to to detective sub genre in crime literature? Film Noir are often a mix of these also... film genre reader anyone? Sources? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 52.119.116.170 (talk) 07:09, 23 January 2020 (UTC)

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Crime action sub-genre removal

The source in question discussing the Crime action subgenre was a misinterpretation. "Screenwriter and academic Jule Selbo wrote that describing a film as a "crime/action" or an "action/crime" or other hybrids was "only a semantic exercise" as both genres are important in the construction phase of the narrative." While they do say that they were a hybrid, but thinking that as it's own entity isn't useful, they exist on their own. I'm going to expand on this as a sub-genre within Action film, but for now, i've removed it in this case. Andrzejbanas (talk) 13:48, 5 June 2024 (UTC)

Re-write

As I've done with adventure film, action film and thriller film, I've been trying to expand the article. Previously, it had several unsourced sections, dead citations, and barely applied the academic sources it listed within the article, which are readily available. This is a start, but if there is anything major that was lost, please feel free to restore content that may have got lost in the shuffle (or discuss it here). I hope this is an improvement for the most part. Andrzejbanas (talk) 12:40, 7 October 2024 (UTC)