Talk:Bank of Montreal

List of executives

Do we really need the list of executives? It seems to me that this will be difficult to maintain and that the information would be more readily available on the bank's website. Cjrother 03:44, 2 Feb 2005 (UTC)

I seems someone went out of their way to cut and paste the lists for a few major Canadian banks. I think the information is unnecessary, beyond perhaps the Chairman of the Board and the CEO it is not necessary to mention the Bank's executives. --Alexwcovington (talk) 06:53, 2 Feb 2005 (UTC)

• The shorter list is better but I wonder if we shouldn't just get rid of the whole thing. If any of the execs had their own pages already I could maybe see listing them but as it is I don't see what the list adds to the entry. I'm also worried that it will be quickly out of date. Cjrother 18:50, 14 Mar 2005 (UTC)

BMO-RBC Financial Services

The article uses this name for the result of the proposed merger with RBC. Does anyone have any references for this? I was of the impression that no new name had been chosen before the merger was rejected. Cjrother 17:37, 6 May 2005 (UTC)

Good point. I have taken the liberty of renaming these sections to avoid the appearance that "BMO-RBC Financial Services" was the proposed name for the entity that would have been created by this merger. I do not believe that any name was officially chosen at the time. Grstain 19:26, May 6, 2005 (UTC)

HQ

BMO's headquarters are actually in Toronto, in the "First Canadian Place", as shown in the picture. It was moved there at some point in the 80's I think; it would be nice if someone had the exact date. UnHoly 02:24, 22 August 2005 (UTC)

Although most of BMO's decision-making is in Toronto, the Head Office is still at 129 Saint-Jacques, Montreal. (See, for example, Corporate information from TSX for the exact address.) — Grstain 13:10, August 22, 2005 (UTC)

You'll notice that even though the adress is in Montreal, the phone number is in the 416 area code, i.e. Toronto. But I guess if they want to keep the fiction that they are in Montreal, we can go along. UnHoly 16:43, 22 August 2005 (UTC)

Has anyone thought of calling or emailing them and asking? If you look at their whois information it says they're in Scarborough. --File:Ottawa flag.png Spinboy 16:44, 22 August 2005 (UTC)

That's probably because BMO's computer facility is located in Scarborough, right next to its "Institute for Learning". — Grstain 17:05, August 22, 2005 (UTC)

I was born in Montreal and now I live in Toronto. I actually have an account with the BMO and everyone that works at that bank (both in Montreal and Toronto alike) tell me (when I ask them) that all the decision making is at the First Canadian Place in Toronto. All servers, offices and leaders of all the bank's subdivision are all located in Toronto.--Imobius 01:37, 3 November 2005 (UTC)

Article Vandalism?

I don't when it was done, probably sometime between when the last discusion threads were posted and now, someone put the following in the article

in the paragraph discussing the Board of Directors "very gay" Robert Chevrier, and that in 2016, the BOM merged with the People's Bank of the People's Balls.

Embarassing especially if the article is featured on the front page, as it is today.

I removed both, but the article should probably be checked for "digital graffitti."

Jeffbachman 13:20, 02 Nov 2005 (UTC)

I'm cleaning up vandalism by 209.135.123.8, someone should ensure that the infobox contains the proper location/foundation information, in the proper format. It was changed by them, but it seems that the article has kept it. –M^T 17:34, 11 November 2005 (UTC)

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Article lists separate names, which op group is www.harrisnesbitt.com ?

Does anyone know what BMO stands for?? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 24.203.34.111 (talk • contribs).

It stands for Bank of Montreal. Ardenn 03:55, 3 April 2006 (UTC)

I think he meant why it is called BMO and not BoM or something similar. I'm not sure if it was here before, but it says in the article that it was named after its stock symbol. 74.116.137.2 01:34, 29 October 2006 (UTC)

It says no such thing in the article. ThVa (talk) 06:47, 1 January 2009 (UTC)

There is a class action lawsuit proceeding against BMO for $100M. http://www.paliareroland.com/rrsp.asp Turidoth 19:06, 25 August 2006 (UTC)

Replying to the question about http://www.harrisnesbitt.com - Harris Nesbitt was the old name for BMO's investment banking operations in the United States. The new name for BMO's investment banking division is BMO Capital Markets, http://www.bmocm.com/ --TruthbringerToronto (Talk | contribs) 00:03, 24 February 2007 (UTC)

Ezekiel Hart

Ezekiel Hart is repetedly added to the BMO founders list. This information is incorrect; they were only nine founders of the bank, all of which signed the Bank's articles of association. Any serious historian can go to BMO's Corporate Archives to confirm this. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 198.96.180.245 (talk) 14:00, 16 June 2010 (UTC)

I checked the given ref (which I adjusted to be more specific for where I found the info) and I do not see him listed, so I removed it. It's up to those who would re-add to supply a reference supporting his inclusion. DMacks (talk) 19:19, 5 July 2010 (UTC)

Merger proposal

I propose to merge BMO Nesbitt Burns into Bank of Montreal, per the emerging consensus which had concurrence between Skeletor3000, by their thanking me for my close, and explicitly by Mindmatrix, from the recent AfD discussion result for BMO Nesbitt Burns which confirmed that although BMO Nesbitt Burns meets WP:GNG, as written, the BMO Nesbitt Burns article fails WP:CORPDEPTH and it has had ~15-20 years to do so. Though Wikipedia notionally has no deadlines, having perpetual stub-class articles that say things like, "Company X was founded in NNNN in Y and exists," and then links to the parent company article is both unhelpful to readers/patrons and, in turn, this reflects poorly on the encyclopedia. As well, if you strip out the two paragraphs on trivial administrative monetary penalties and civil court actions related to contraventions of the mutual fund dealer's licensing terms, this article is a mere two sentences; thus, it's an unnecessary and duplicative content fork. Lastly, think that the content in the BMO Nesbitt Burns article can easily be explained in the context of Bank of Montreal (where it's probably already mentioned), and the Bank of Montreal article is of a reasonable size that the merging of BMO Nesbitt Burns will not cause any problems as far as article size is concerned.

Note: that this merge would be without prejudice to a future splitting back to BMO Nesbitt Burns, preferably through a new consensus discussion, if and when willing editors want to write more than a stub-class article that does not give undue weight to the administrative monetary penalties and court actions of the mutual fund dealing firm. Doug Mehus T·C 15:53, 6 February 2020 (UTC)

• Support: Thank you for starting this discussion. I support the merge as you described above. I feel it makes more sense than merging Nesbitt, Thomson and Company to BMO Nesbitt Burns, as it seems likely that the predecessor's article should/could be expanded substantially, and it's important as a historic entity beyond its eventual absorption into BMO. Skeletor3000 (talk) 16:02, 6 February 2020 (UTC)

  Skeletor3000, No problem, and I concur with that logic as well. That defunct predecessor company likely also meets WP:GNG as well, so it can definitely be expanded on in the future, but only up to the point of its acquisition by Bank of Montreal. To add to my comment re: the lawsuit mentioned in BMO Nesbitt Burns, we may also want to merge that sentence into a separate section of Bank of Montreal related to all of BMO's past lawsuits; no need for it to be mentioned under the section on BMO Nesbitt Burns. Doug Mehus T·C 16:23, 6 February 2020 (UTC)

  Dmehus: From my perspective, the legal actions in the BMO Nesbitt Burns article seem to be of the expected variety for large banks, and may not be worth including at all. That said, financial institutions aren't my usual editing territory, so I'll defer to more experienced editors. I will say that the current inclusion in BMO Nesbitt Burns reads awkwardly, especially with the management changes and cannabis investment tacked on. Skeletor3000 (talk) 17:15, 6 February 2020 (UTC)

  Skeletor3000, Financial institutions are my editing specialty, and, in full disclosure, I previously worked from 2008-2013 (inclusive) for HSBC Bank Canada and was licensed to sell mutual funds to British Columbia-residing clients through its HSBC Investment Funds (Canada) Inc. mutual fund dealing subsidiary (2013, roughly inclusive). I concur with you that, other than the overtime-related lawsuit, the rest of the mentions and the personnel changes can just be cut out completely. Doug Mehus T·C 17:21, 6 February 2020 (UTC)

  I also agree the cannabis-related information should be cut entirely. I suspect these were good-intentioned attempts at a WP:HEY to help the article pass AfD, but, in the end, it clearly meets WP:GNG and wasn't necessary. Thus, those editions can be removed. Doug Mehus T·C 17:23, 6 February 2020 (UTC)

  Skeletor3000,  Done. Doug Mehus T·C 17:51, 6 February 2020 (UTC)

  Y Merger complete. Klbrain (talk) 11:18, 3 January 2021 (UTC)

I we'll Naver be with BMO ever in my life and my story we'll get out to people that are with BMO it's not fair how they treat us trying to talk to them and then hang up on us I had nothing but bad experience with BMO 156.57.213.25 (talk) 16:00, 1 December 2023 (UTC)

Moved from article

This comment to the article from IP 2a00:23c5:2702:d301:70fe:9a08:af15:2c63 has been removed [1] and moved here:
< THIS IS ALL INCORRECT. Both F&C (ISIN: FCIT) and the Commmercial Property Trust (ISIN: BCPT) are London listed investment trusts and PLCs and have never been aquired by anyone. The writer is confusing them with the investment management company that those trusts use and which is now owned by Ameriprise Financial. Please have this whole entry checked by someone competent.