Talk:Nicolás Massú

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Massú's performance at the 2004 Olympics was of the highest order, and it's truly one for the ages.

Chi

Whoops... I saw Chi after his name on BBC (Wimbledon 2006) and I thought he was from China. Doesn't look it... Thank you Wikipedia for telling me he's Chilean.

Is he Jewish?

Some proof is needed for this fact please.--Nitsansh 03:24, 4 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Why? Did you try googling it (faster than asking for proof)? It is pretty clear. [1] --Epeefleche 03:52, 4 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

That reference only cites that his mother is jew, but in another references he doesn't get clear about his religion because he went from a mixed family, with a father that came from muslim roots. [2] —Preceding unsigned comment added by 190.164.255.28 (talk) 04:25, 18 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

If his mother is Jewish and providing he has not converted to another religion, then that makes him so. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.66.68.130 (talk) 13:11, 2 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Is his father Lebanese or Palestinian?

I invite the anonymous (and any other) editor who says that Massú's father is Palestinian to provide sources. Epeefleche has cited credible sources that say he's Lebanese. Of course, he could be a Palestinian Lebanese, but in any case, it must be sourced. SamEV 12:47, 13 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you, SamEV

For a perfect compromise :) ☆ CieloEstrellado 21:29, 18 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

You're welcome. SamEV (talk) 06:30, 20 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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His father is Palestinian, and I'm not sure about him being jewish...

The Massú family of Chile comes from the town of Beit Jala, near Bethlehem, in Palestine. About Nicolas being Jewish, I have never seen a credible source saying that. His mother is a Jew, but that doesn't make him a Jew. He isn't a Christian just because his father is.

Here is one source: http://espndeportes.espn.go.com/futbol/report?leagueCup=CHI.1&id=259115

it's ESPN about football, but it clearly states that "El tenista chileno Nicolás Massú es hijo de padre descendiente de palestinos y madre de origen judío." (Tennis player Nicolas Massu is son of a father of palestinian descent, and a mother of jewish roots.") —Preceding unsigned comment added by 190.21.230.48 (talk) 20:17, 2 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I thought this was settled, a year ago.

Anyway, the link accompanying the claim that his father is Lebanese was dead, so I tried to find a replacement, while also taking advantage of this opportunity to try and settle the matter of whether he's Lebanese or Palestinian. The number of Google hits were about the same for both claims, but those for Lebanese were the less reliable ones (or even UN-reliable), I thought. I found a story in El Mercurio which states that his father is of Palestinian origin. That makes two reliable sources, so I made the change to Palestinian.

Concerning his being Jewish, there are three sources for that, and they're specifically Jewish websites. SamEV (talk) 06:20, 14 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

It was. There were formerly three cited sources for his being Jewish. As to his being Lebanes, the cited source was a good one. Wiki policy does not suggest that the source and statement be deleted once the link goes dead.--Epeefleche (talk) 09:54, 14 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Also, the fact that he played in the Maccabiah games is of course consistent with him being Jewish.--Epeefleche (talk) 09:54, 14 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Regarding the dead link, you're right. On the other hand, it's not right to remove two sources and replace them with one which supports one's claim. There's room for all three, per WP:NPOV. SamEV (talk) 20:59, 14 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Tx. Perhaps you differ on this, but I thought that the official olympics site was by far the most reputable of the four for these purposes.--Epeefleche (talk) 08:50, 18 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Double gold at the Olympics

The introduction states that Massú "is the first and only player to have won both gold medals (singles and doubles) in the same Olympic Games". This is not true. Vincent Richards did this already at the 1924 Summer Olympics. See Tennis_at_the_1924_Summer_Olympics. 217.136.154.213 (talk) 22:29, 22 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you. It's fixed. SamEV (talk) 06:08, 23 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Madrid Masters

There is no mention of his Madrid Masters final in his career finals section, it's just not on there. Someone should remedy this as I don't know what date the final took place. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2.28.161.228 (talk) 11:29, 1 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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