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Nominations
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[edit]Articles created/expanded on August 25
[edit]2024 Ohio Issue 1
- ... that the Republican-led Ohio Ballot Board was sued because its official summary for Ohio Issue 1, designed to improve redistricting, stated instead that the initiative would require gerrymandering?
- Source: the Board's summary "describes the amendment, which is specifically intended to prevent partisan gerrymandering, as specifically requiring it."
- ALT1: ... that advocates for Ohio Issue 1, an initiative to stop partisan gerrymandering, sued the Republican-led Ballot Board for a summary that claimed the 2024 initiative would require gerrymandering? Source: see above. On the parties to the lawsuit itself, see: https://www.democracydocket.com/news-alerts/ohio-group-garners-over-700000-signatures-for-ballot-initiative-to-end-gerrymandering/
- ALT2: ... that Ohio Issue 1 was created to end partisan gerrymandering after 5 redistricting maps by the Republican-led legislature were rejected by the Ohio Supreme Court -- and flawed maps were used in 2022? Source: "Courts rejected two congressional maps and five sets of Statehouse maps as gerrymandered. Amid the court disputes, Ohio’s elections were allowed to proceed last year under the flawed maps." https://apnews.com/article/ohio-redistricting-constitutional-amendment-attorney-general-e3e8759ceeabc9538dd4bd49b6c84b52
- ALT3: ... that in the lead-up to the election, the ballot summary for 2024 Ohio Issue 1 was a flashpoint for legal action? Source: "Ohio Supreme Court clears ballot language saying anti-gerrymandering measure calls for the opposite." https://spectrumnews1.com/oh/columbus/news/2024/09/17/ohio-supreme-court-issue-1-ballot-language
- Reviewed:
- Comment: I hope the hooks and article are carefully NPOV. Reliable sources usually mention that the legislature and ballot board are Republican-led, since gerrymandering is about partisanship. Fwiw, Issue 1 proponents are described in the press as bipartisan.
- Update: ALT3 added per suggestion below
ProfGray (talk) 17:35, 26 August 2024 (UTC).
- WP:DYKELECT talks about "election candidates", but I think the spirt of the guideline also applies to ballot questions like this. I suggest holding this until after the election. RoySmith (talk) 17:11, 1 October 2024 (UTC)
- No reason not to review it now; if it gets approved, it can be placed in the special occasion section set up for election hooks to run after the November election in the US. BlueMoonset (talk) 17:50, 4 October 2024 (UTC)
- Not a review, but not totally sure the hooks are that interesting. Andre🚐 22:17, 8 October 2024 (UTC)
Starting review:
- As noted above, this should be held until after the upcoming elections
- That will in turn require updating wording like
to be voted upon in the November 2024 election
. It would be useful to mark this up with {{Update after}} reminders now, but I'll leave that for somebody else. - Obviously, if we run this after the election, it will need to be updated with the outcome and probably reactions.
- That will in turn require updating wording like
- New enough (created August 25, nominated the next day)
- Long enough
- QPQ exempt
- Earwig calls out lots of text duplication, but it's all properly attributed quotes, so no worries there.
- Since this is a controversial issue, I gave the sources a close look. For the most part, they appear to be WP:RS. I do see a few duplicated sources, which WP:REFILL can help fix, but that's not a DYK criterion.
- The Official arguments section does a good job of hewing to WP:NPOV.
- I am, however, somewhat concerned about the Support section. The large "Yes" box duplicates much of the preceding paragraph, is not balanced by a "No" box, probably violates MOS:EMBED, and is almost certainly incomplete today and at risk of going out of date at any point in the future. I'd drop it.
- I'm also unconvinced that the Polling section is useful and probably violates WP:NPOV since it only lists one poll.
- I pretty much agree with Andrevan about the hooks. Although they all get under the 200 character official limit, they're all excessively wordy, and not very interesting.
- RoySmith (talk) 14:29, 9 October 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks for the review. I agree with some of your concerns, mostly about edits since my DYK submission, eg the Yes box (blown up from a more selective prose text) and the Polling. If (or: since) the DYK can't be run at this stage, I will wait to edit and update until after the election, ok? Given the timing, does the "new enough" criterion still a pass? After the vote, perhaps an better DYK hook will be apparent. Thanks for your review and for everyone's input here. ProfGray (talk) 21:32, 9 October 2024 (UTC)
- Don't worry about the timing; as long as you get the nomination in on time, you're good. If we hold it up because of our rules, that's on us. RoySmith (talk) 17:45, 10 October 2024 (UTC)
- RoySmith, ProfGray, I'm not nearly so sanguine that this one won't be closed on October 25 or 26 when it hits two months. If it's approved and in the special occasion section for nominations waiting for the election to be over, then there isn't a problem. If it's still not approved at the end of the coming week, there probably will be. I would respectfully suggest that ProfGray do whatever is necessary to get the article and/or hooks into such shape that the nomination can be passed during the coming week; any post-election edits can be made per whatever new information is relevant. BlueMoonset (talk) 01:47, 20 October 2024 (UTC)
- In response to points above -- the Polling section has been removed. The "Yes" support section has been balanced by a "No" opposition section. (I didn't happen to create this section, but I added a few opposing orgs and now it does seem balanced.) I adjusted some language to be more NPOV and I welcome any other concerns about the article. I will think about the hook, since it'd be great to run the DYK. I hadn't known about the two months conern.ProfGray (talk) 15:27, 20 October 2024 (UTC)
- OK, the article looks better now. The only thing left is to work on the hooks. In general, short snappy hooks are better than long complicated ones. RoySmith (talk) 15:33, 20 October 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks. It'd be great to get help with the hook. Personally, I find it interesting (fascinating, ironic, clever) that both the proponents and opponents claim to be against gerrymandering and both blame the other side for gerrymandering. The zany redistricting context is also interesting to me. But if these are not interesting, what would folks recommend for the hook? ProfGray (talk) 16:11, 20 October 2024 (UTC)
- I would question whether a broad audience would know what gerrymandering was. Assuming it checks out, I suggest something less specific, like "that in the lead-up to the 2024 election, the summary of 2024 Ohio Issue 1 was a flashpoint for legal action".--Launchballer 12:26, 25 October 2024 (UTC)
- That's an interesting point. My first thought was, "No, that's dumb. Of course everybody knows what gerrymandering is". But then as I read a bit of Gerrymandering I realized it's only an issue in places which use an election system similar to what we have in the US. If you are electing people based on total vote count across the entire electorate, it's not a thing. I don't honestly know enough about election systems around the world to know how many places it is a thing. RoySmith (talk) 14:40, 25 October 2024 (UTC)
- Actually, my concern was that knowing the word took knowing a fair bit about politics. (I have limited interest in the subject and only know the term because I was reading about Tesco, whose founder's daughter was behind the homes for votes scandal.)--Launchballer 15:18, 25 October 2024 (UTC)
- I guess I should ping @ProfGray:.--Launchballer 11:42, 26 October 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks, I added your suggested hook as ALT3. Btw, IMO gerrymandering would be fine for the hook and a link to the gerrymandering article goes to a clear definition. ProfGray (talk) 00:52, 28 October 2024 (UTC)
- I guess I should ping @ProfGray:.--Launchballer 11:42, 26 October 2024 (UTC)
- Actually, my concern was that knowing the word took knowing a fair bit about politics. (I have limited interest in the subject and only know the term because I was reading about Tesco, whose founder's daughter was behind the homes for votes scandal.)--Launchballer 15:18, 25 October 2024 (UTC)
- That's an interesting point. My first thought was, "No, that's dumb. Of course everybody knows what gerrymandering is". But then as I read a bit of Gerrymandering I realized it's only an issue in places which use an election system similar to what we have in the US. If you are electing people based on total vote count across the entire electorate, it's not a thing. I don't honestly know enough about election systems around the world to know how many places it is a thing. RoySmith (talk) 14:40, 25 October 2024 (UTC)
- I would question whether a broad audience would know what gerrymandering was. Assuming it checks out, I suggest something less specific, like "that in the lead-up to the 2024 election, the summary of 2024 Ohio Issue 1 was a flashpoint for legal action".--Launchballer 12:26, 25 October 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks. It'd be great to get help with the hook. Personally, I find it interesting (fascinating, ironic, clever) that both the proponents and opponents claim to be against gerrymandering and both blame the other side for gerrymandering. The zany redistricting context is also interesting to me. But if these are not interesting, what would folks recommend for the hook? ProfGray (talk) 16:11, 20 October 2024 (UTC)
- OK, the article looks better now. The only thing left is to work on the hooks. In general, short snappy hooks are better than long complicated ones. RoySmith (talk) 15:33, 20 October 2024 (UTC)
- In response to points above -- the Polling section has been removed. The "Yes" support section has been balanced by a "No" opposition section. (I didn't happen to create this section, but I added a few opposing orgs and now it does seem balanced.) I adjusted some language to be more NPOV and I welcome any other concerns about the article. I will think about the hook, since it'd be great to run the DYK. I hadn't known about the two months conern.ProfGray (talk) 15:27, 20 October 2024 (UTC)
- RoySmith, ProfGray, I'm not nearly so sanguine that this one won't be closed on October 25 or 26 when it hits two months. If it's approved and in the special occasion section for nominations waiting for the election to be over, then there isn't a problem. If it's still not approved at the end of the coming week, there probably will be. I would respectfully suggest that ProfGray do whatever is necessary to get the article and/or hooks into such shape that the nomination can be passed during the coming week; any post-election edits can be made per whatever new information is relevant. BlueMoonset (talk) 01:47, 20 October 2024 (UTC)
- Don't worry about the timing; as long as you get the nomination in on time, you're good. If we hold it up because of our rules, that's on us. RoySmith (talk) 17:45, 10 October 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks for the review. I agree with some of your concerns, mostly about edits since my DYK submission, eg the Yes box (blown up from a more selective prose text) and the Polling. If (or: since) the DYK can't be run at this stage, I will wait to edit and update until after the election, ok? Given the timing, does the "new enough" criterion still a pass? After the vote, perhaps an better DYK hook will be apparent. Thanks for your review and for everyone's input here. ProfGray (talk) 21:32, 9 October 2024 (UTC)
@RoySmith: Could I ask that you assess my ALT3?--Launchballer 12:21, 31 October 2024 (UTC)
- From a strictly copyediting point of view, how about shortening it to:
- ALT3a: ... the ballot summary for 2024 Ohio Issue 1 was a flashpoint for legal action? — Preceding unsigned comment added by RoySmith (talk • contribs)
- That's fine by me.--Launchballer 19:42, 31 October 2024 (UTC)
- ALT3a: ... the ballot summary for 2024 Ohio Issue 1 was a flashpoint for legal action? — Preceding unsigned comment added by RoySmith (talk • contribs)
Articles created/expanded on August 30
[edit]İzlem Gürçağ Altuğra
- ... that İzlem Gürçağ Altuğra once opened the national women's chess championships as Northern Cyprus' Minister of Health? Source: Açılışını Sağlık Bakanı İzlem Gürçağ Altuğra’nın yaptığı ... Kadınlar Satranç Şampiyonası çekişmeli ve heyecanlı bir şekilde sona erdi./The Women's Chess Championship, which was opened by the Minister of Health İzlem Gürçağ Altuğra ... ended in a competitive and exciting manner.
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Diplodus argenteus
- Comment: Northern Cypriot DYKs are very rare, and I haven't done one of these before. Hope I did this right.
ミラP@Miraclepine 15:33, 4 September 2024 (UTC).
- The article is new enough. Although WP:DYKLEN does not address this, I am not happy when an article just barely meets the length requirements thanks to repeating a significant portion of its content in the lead pararaph or lead section. Without said repetition, this article contains about 1350 characters of prose. I also do not think that a minister opening a chess championship is particularly interesting. Surtsicna (talk) 12:17, 6 October 2024 (UTC)
- @Surtsicna: Well, the thing is, it is what a lede is supposed to do, to summarize the basics, and while I try to keep the lede as necessarily short as possible, in this case the lede just happened to summarize the entire body in only a third of its size. And to be honest, I just found it unusual for a health minister to open a national chess championship during their tenure, which is why it felt interesting to have as a hook. ミラP@Miraclepine 22:32, 6 October 2024 (UTC)
Just wanted to note since this page is now at 1394 B (below the 1500 B minimum) due to MOS:LEADSTUB cleanup that I would like to expand the article on Friday or Saturday (when I have more time) or earlier in case it's possible to find a sufficiently interesting hook from there. ミラP@Miraclepine 03:55, 23 October 2024 (UTC)
- Okay, I've expanded this article to 2322 B and this is the most hooky I can get, but it's borderline and 199 characters, so if ALT0 to 2 aren't enough, I can withdraw this nom.
- ALT1: ... that Northern Cypriot politician İzlem Gürçağ Altuğra resigned as president of Girne District after her party's local branch refused to hold elections for the executive board of their women’s branch? Source: Altuğra stated in his statement to TAK that the District Executive Board meeting ... rejected the request of 19 candidates who wanted to take office in the Girne District Women's Branch Executive Board ... but that he decided to resign from this position after all the participants voted in favor./Altuğra, TAK’a yaptığı açıklamada, pazar gün yapılacak İlçe Kongresine yönelik ... Girne İlçesi Kadın Kolları Yönetim Kurulu’nda görev almak isteyen 19 adayın seçimsiz yönetime alınması talebini ... ancak katılımcıların tümünün olumlu oy vermesi üzerine bu görevinden ayrılma kararı aldığını kaydetti.
- ALT2: ... that İzlem Gürçağ Altuğra resigned as president of Girne District in Northern Cyprus after her party's local branch refused to hold elections for the executive board of their women’s branch? Source: Same as above.
- Hope this help. ミラP@Miraclepine 01:12, 27 October 2024 (UTC)
- The article looks much more substantial now. There is some fluff, however. I do not think it is encyclopedically vital to note that she congratulated someone on election, or that she attended a memorial service. The bit about her donating money might be seen as promotional. And what was she congratulated for at the chess championship? ALT1 is an improvement, but I wonder if something could be done with the counterfeit prescription scandal. That sounds intriguing. Surtsicna (talk) 18:54, 28 October 2024 (UTC)
- @Surtsicna: If it helps, at the least they were covered by national mainstream media outlets. And the congratulation was at a different meeting, not the chess championship. I've expanded more on the counterfeit prescription scandal, but I gotta sleep now before I can cover the rest. ミラP@Miraclepine 04:11, 29 October 2024 (UTC)
- @Surtsicna: @Miraclepine: has done some more work on this. Would you able to check back into this?--Launchballer 15:46, 29 October 2024 (UTC)
- @Surtsicna: I've added more on the meeting with the Turkish health minister and the scandal. Not sure on this, but here's ALT3:
- ALT3: ... that Northern Cypriot Minister of Health İzlem Gürçağ Altuğra wanted the country to have its first qualified pharmaceutical facility because "if we do not produce, we will be destroyed". Source: “Kendi ülkemizde, nitelikli, işe yarayan ilaç fabrikası görmek istiyorum. Çağrımı yineliyorum” vurgusunu yapan ... Altuğra, “Üretmezsek yok oluruz; kendi ülkemizde ilaç fabrikamızı kurmak zorundayız” dedi./Emphasizing that “I want to see a qualified, working pharmaceutical factory in our own country. I reiterate my call,” Altuğra ... said, “If we do not produce, we will be destroyed; we have to establish our own pharmaceutical factory in our own country.”
- Hope this helps. ミラP@Miraclepine 17:43, 29 October 2024 (UTC)
- Did the opposition have anything to say about her in the context of the scandal? Political biographies can easily veer off into bias. And I think I have a good hook:
ALT4: ... that Northern Cypriot Minister of Health İzlem Gürçağ Altuğra warned that her country would be destroyed unless it started producing drugs?
What do you think? Surtsicna (talk) 19:24, 29 October 2024 (UTC)
- Did the opposition have anything to say about her in the context of the scandal? Political biographies can easily veer off into bias. And I think I have a good hook:
- @Surtsicna: @Miraclepine: has done some more work on this. Would you able to check back into this?--Launchballer 15:46, 29 October 2024 (UTC)
- @Surtsicna: If it helps, at the least they were covered by national mainstream media outlets. And the congratulation was at a different meeting, not the chess championship. I've expanded more on the counterfeit prescription scandal, but I gotta sleep now before I can cover the rest. ミラP@Miraclepine 04:11, 29 October 2024 (UTC)
- The article looks much more substantial now. There is some fluff, however. I do not think it is encyclopedically vital to note that she congratulated someone on election, or that she attended a memorial service. The bit about her donating money might be seen as promotional. And what was she congratulated for at the chess championship? ALT1 is an improvement, but I wonder if something could be done with the counterfeit prescription scandal. That sounds intriguing. Surtsicna (talk) 18:54, 28 October 2024 (UTC)
- @Surtsicna: I couldn't find any such sources even in Turkish, so what should I remove, maybe the "witnessed the scandal's investigation with sadness" part? Oh, and the ALT4 looks good. ミラP@Miraclepine 00:24, 30 October 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on September 3
[edit]Svayamvara
- ... that in ancient Indian literature, princesses would select their husbands from a lineup of suitors or through public contests in the distinctive matrimonial tradition called Svayamvara (pictured)?
- Source: A Dictionary of Hinduism, Oxford Publications "For the daughter of a royal or a kṣatriya family, a way of selecting a husband which takes the form of either of a public contest between her suitors, or an assembly at which the bride-to-be simply chooses between them. Perhaps the best-known instances occur in the Mahābhārata, where Arjuna wins Draupadī by this method, and Damayantī prefers Nala to any of the assembled gods."
- Brockington, John L (2006). "Epic Svayaṃvaras, Voice of the Orient: a Tribute to Prof. Upendranath Dhal". Academia.edu: 35–42.
- Reviewed:
Seyamar(245CMR)💬📜 06:05, 3 September 2024 (UTC).
- : Seems new and long enough, almost entirely written by nominator; I have a few very minor problems with the sourcing that I think can be resolved by just copying some nearby sources, which I tagged: specifically, I think there should be a citation for the 1st paragraph of "Svayamvara in the Rg Veda" and one place in the 1st paragraph of "Damayantī's Svayamvara". Also, I think it would be more clear if the source at the end of the last paragraph of the lead were duplicated to the first two paragraphs as well if it applies to them, and per the DYK guidelines, I think that the source given has to be present at the end of the sentence giving the claim present in the hook. Don't see any neutrality issues. Article is (listing criteria) presentable, image & hook seem good, no other complaints. As for copyvio, not sure what the standards are on manual "spot-checks", so I'm leaving that for a second reviewer. Mrfoogles (talk) 04:59, 6 September 2024 (UTC)
- @User:Mrfoogles, done what you have suggested.Seyamar(245CMR)💬📜 06:23, 6 September 2024 (UTC)
- Citation problems seem resolved, all that's left is a copyright check. Mrfoogles (talk) 16:53, 6 September 2024 (UTC)
- @Mrfoogles: Have you completed the copyright check, and is this approved? If not, what else needs to be done? Z1720 (talk) 14:39, 17 September 2024 (UTC)
- I was hoping someone else would also double-check my copyright checking (which is done, but I’m new), but that doesn’t seem to be happening anytime soon, so I’ll approve it. Mrfoogles (talk) 14:52, 17 September 2024 (UTC)
- @Mrfoogles: Is the review completed?Seyamar(245CMR)💬📜 18:26, 17 September 2024 (UTC)
- The green check in the circle means yes (it's a special DYK one that means it was accepted). Mrfoogles (talk) 18:34, 17 September 2024 (UTC)
- @Mrfoogles: Is the review completed?Seyamar(245CMR)💬📜 18:26, 17 September 2024 (UTC)
- I was hoping someone else would also double-check my copyright checking (which is done, but I’m new), but that doesn’t seem to be happening anytime soon, so I’ll approve it. Mrfoogles (talk) 14:52, 17 September 2024 (UTC)
- Citation problems seem resolved, all that's left is a copyright check. Mrfoogles (talk) 16:53, 6 September 2024 (UTC)
- @User:Mrfoogles, done what you have suggested.Seyamar(245CMR)💬📜 06:23, 6 September 2024 (UTC)
@Z1720 Any update, it has been passed quite a long ago.Seyamar(245CMR)💬📜 17:03, 3 October 2024 (UTC)
- @Seyamar: The article is at WP:DYKNA: it will be moved into a prep set when there is an open spot. Z1720 (talk) 18:13, 3 October 2024 (UTC)
- Unpromoted due to this discussion at WT:DYK—extensive sourcing problems with significant information not verified by sources. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 01:52, 16 October 2024 (UTC)
- @Launchballer: already responded at the talk page of Talk:DYK, slowly Changing all ref to sfn for clarity, might take some time as currently not as free.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Seyamar (talk • contribs)
Articles created/expanded on September 5
[edit]Moses da Rieti
- ... that Moses da Rieti was the first Hebrew poet to write in the rhyming verse form of Dante?
- Reviewed:
cc @User:GordonGlottal Andre🚐 19:31, 7 September 2024 (UTC).
- Given that general readers may not know what "terza rima" is, a minor reword (perhaps changing the term to something more accessible) may be needed here. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 01:04, 10 September 2024 (UTC)
- Seems fair, maybe we should add the phrase "rhyming verse form" afterwards? Andre🚐 01:17, 10 September 2024 (UTC)
- Or you could just replace "terza rima" with "rhyming verse form" in the hook. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 12:14, 10 September 2024 (UTC)
- A drive-by comment: this has the perennial form of "first" hooks, that even though we may have sources calling them first, there's a high likelihood of WP:ERRORS when someone notices the hook and remembers the existence of someone else using terza rima in Hebrew at an earlier date, overlooked by our source. To forestall this, can we maybe rewrite the hook to avoid the word "first"? Something like
- ALT1 ... that Moses da Rieti wrote Hebrew poetry in the rhyming verse form of Dante?
- —David Eppstein (talk) 23:58, 13 October 2024 (UTC)
- I don't mind that, but I think it's rather unlikely that someone will find another example of it, since Dante died in 1321 and Moses was born in 1388, and there are precious few remaining manuscripts from that time to begin with, though I suppose it's not entirely out of the question that a cache of codices will be found in some Vatican annex basement or a Dead Sea caves situation. For reference, the source (Dvora Bregman) says
Rieti was, in fact, the first Hebrew poet to use this form, and through his influence it was incorporated into Hebrew poetry by his successors.
Andre🚐 00:20, 14 October 2024 (UTC)
- I don't mind that, but I think it's rather unlikely that someone will find another example of it, since Dante died in 1321 and Moses was born in 1388, and there are precious few remaining manuscripts from that time to begin with, though I suppose it's not entirely out of the question that a cache of codices will be found in some Vatican annex basement or a Dead Sea caves situation. For reference, the source (Dvora Bregman) says
Reviewer needed. Z1720 (talk) 22:52, 29 October 2024 (UTC)
- Note to @GordonGlottal, he has an extensive sandbox with improvements that should be merged back in for this. Andre🚐 23:28, 29 October 2024 (UTC)
- I will say that although deserving {{lead too long}} isn't technically a disqualifier, I would politely suggest that having three quarters of the article up there is taking the mickey. Whether by expanding the rest or moving what's there, this should be fixed.--Launchballer 23:53, 29 October 2024 (UTC)
- That is fair. There's a version of the article at User:GordonGlottal/sandbox that should address that. Andre🚐 00:22, 30 October 2024 (UTC)
- I mean, I'm not going to demand that all that be copied in, but I will ask that what's currently in the article is rearranged (which is what I meant by "what's there").--Launchballer 22:33, 31 October 2024 (UTC)
- That is fair. There's a version of the article at User:GordonGlottal/sandbox that should address that. Andre🚐 00:22, 30 October 2024 (UTC)
- I will say that although deserving {{lead too long}} isn't technically a disqualifier, I would politely suggest that having three quarters of the article up there is taking the mickey. Whether by expanding the rest or moving what's there, this should be fixed.--Launchballer 23:53, 29 October 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on September 7
[edit]Articles created/expanded on September 8
[edit]Jewish dairy restaurant
- ... that Leon Trotsky frequented a Jewish dairy restaurant in the Bronx but refused to tip, and waiters retaliated by spilling hot soup on him?
- Reviewed:
Andre🚐 09:28, 8 September 2024 (UTC).
- Not a full review, but the interesting thing about the article is the fact that Jewish dairy restaurants even exist in the first place, considering kosher laws. I'd suggest proposing hooks that focus specifically on that aspect, as least as possible options for the promoter, as the mere concept of the Jewish dairy restaurant is the elephant in the room here. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 10:49, 18 September 2024 (UTC)
- Could you elaborate what you mean? Dairy restaurants are kosher. That is the entire point of them. The laws say not to mix milk and meat, that's why there isn't any meat at a dairyrestaurant. Andre🚐 12:47, 18 September 2024 (UTC)
- As a non-Jew myself, I just thought that the actual concept was interesting by itself. It might not be as obvious to observant Jews of course since they may take it for granted, but especially to people from places where Jews are not very visible it might be unusual. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 14:02, 18 September 2024 (UTC)
- Ah, yes, I see what you mean. Yeah maybe there could be an ALT1 like:
- As a non-Jew myself, I just thought that the actual concept was interesting by itself. It might not be as obvious to observant Jews of course since they may take it for granted, but especially to people from places where Jews are not very visible it might be unusual. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 14:02, 18 September 2024 (UTC)
... that Jewish dairy restaurants specialize in food like cheese blintzes and vegetarian borscht to accommodate the kosher Jewish dietary rules on milk and meat?
- A bit long perhaps? Andre🚐 14:05, 18 September 2024 (UTC)
- Per WP:DYKTRIM it could be shortened to something like "... that Jewish dairy restaurants specialize in food that accommodate the kosher Jewish dietary rules on milk and meat?" Would that be okay with you? Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 00:49, 19 September 2024 (UTC)
- Sure sounds good. Andre🚐 00:50, 19 September 2024 (UTC)
- Per WP:DYKTRIM it could be shortened to something like "... that Jewish dairy restaurants specialize in food that accommodate the kosher Jewish dietary rules on milk and meat?" Would that be okay with you? Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 00:49, 19 September 2024 (UTC)
- A bit long perhaps? Andre🚐 14:05, 18 September 2024 (UTC)
- I do think the original hook is interesting, I only mentioned the suggestion above so that it could be offered as an option. It's probably best for a reviewer to make the final decision. I've slightly modified the original hook to give Trotsky's full name since not all readers may know who he is. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 12:39, 19 September 2024 (UTC)
- @Narutolovehinata5: Can I review the article or do my copyedits disqualify me? Viriditas (talk) 21:10, 7 October 2024 (UTC)
- It might be safer to leave it to another editor to do the actual review of the article content, although you can probably do some of the more technical aspects like article creation, hook interest, etc. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 23:42, 7 October 2024 (UTC)
- Oh, I thought that was part of the review! Andre🚐 01:05, 8 October 2024 (UTC)
- On the one hand, I disagree with Narutolovehinata5, as I think they could have done the review themselves just as much as I could. But, on the other hand, I admire someone who takes the neutrality principle to such an extreme, and you have to respect that even if you personally disagree with it. With that said, such a position can also have unintended consequences, such as leading to the timing out of this nom due to such high-minded principles. Viriditas (talk) 01:14, 8 October 2024 (UTC)
- Would it help if I review some DYKs that are in the backlog? Andre🚐 01:58, 8 October 2024 (UTC)
- You're very much encouraged to do so, especially since any review can be used in the future once you are required to provide QPQs. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 23:19, 8 October 2024 (UTC)
- I did a few! Andre🚐 23:36, 8 October 2024 (UTC)
- You're very much encouraged to do so, especially since any review can be used in the future once you are required to provide QPQs. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 23:19, 8 October 2024 (UTC)
- Would it help if I review some DYKs that are in the backlog? Andre🚐 01:58, 8 October 2024 (UTC)
- On the one hand, I disagree with Narutolovehinata5, as I think they could have done the review themselves just as much as I could. But, on the other hand, I admire someone who takes the neutrality principle to such an extreme, and you have to respect that even if you personally disagree with it. With that said, such a position can also have unintended consequences, such as leading to the timing out of this nom due to such high-minded principles. Viriditas (talk) 01:14, 8 October 2024 (UTC)
- Oh, I thought that was part of the review! Andre🚐 01:05, 8 October 2024 (UTC)
- It might be safer to leave it to another editor to do the actual review of the article content, although you can probably do some of the more technical aspects like article creation, hook interest, etc. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 23:42, 7 October 2024 (UTC)
- To clarify Viriditas's concern, the reason I asked for a new review is more out of check-and-balance reasons. Personally I have a preference ALT1 (the straightforward hook), but others may disagree and think that the Trotsky angle is more interesting (and personally I do also find it interesting). Normally what I could have done is to approve both hooks and leave it to the promoter, but given how torn I am over the options I thought bringing in a third-party editor to give their own opinion would also help reach a proper consensus. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 02:55, 10 October 2024 (UTC)
- You’re not wrong; both hooks are good. Although I have only managed to vet ALT0. If you can vet ALT1, do the review, pass both, and let the approver decide on which hook to use. Viriditas (talk) 03:10, 10 October 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you both. I think we'd probably be able to verify ALT1 using the Ben Katchor book, The Dairy Restaurant, which I have in physical form. It's a surrealist trip, complete with lots of old menus and ads for dairy restaurants. I'll check and see if there's a succinct definition that we can use and what page that is on. Andre🚐 23:34, 12 October 2024 (UTC)
- Or actually, the NYT review of the book should do it:
The subjects of Mr. Katchor’s new book, “The Dairy Restaurant” (Schocken, $29.95), were community cornerstones: cheap, filling refuges that made it possible for Jewish immigrants in New York to eat out according to kosher laws, by keeping milk and meat strictly separated, with fish, eggs and vegetables as neutral go-betweens.
Good enough? If not, I'll check the book, though I can't do it tonight. Andre🚐 23:37, 12 October 2024 (UTC)
- Or actually, the NYT review of the book should do it:
- Thank you both. I think we'd probably be able to verify ALT1 using the Ben Katchor book, The Dairy Restaurant, which I have in physical form. It's a surrealist trip, complete with lots of old menus and ads for dairy restaurants. I'll check and see if there's a succinct definition that we can use and what page that is on. Andre🚐 23:34, 12 October 2024 (UTC)
- You’re not wrong; both hooks are good. Although I have only managed to vet ALT0. If you can vet ALT1, do the review, pass both, and let the approver decide on which hook to use. Viriditas (talk) 03:10, 10 October 2024 (UTC)
I'm really torn about what to write here. As a resident of the Bronx, I find ALT0 to be a wonderful hook. I had no idea Trotsky ever lived in the Bronx. The idea that I've literally walked down the block where he ate his meals just blows my mind. BTW, I found an ad for the Triangle Dairy Restaurant in the Daily Worker, https://www.marxists.org/history/usa/pubs/dailyworker/1929/1929-ny/v05-n344-NY-feb-08-1929-DW-LOC.pdf, page 3, rightmost column. And a photograph. But, WP:DYKHOOKSTYLE says avoid hooks that are primarily about an incident the subject is only tangentially related to
which would seem to rule out the Trotsky hook. Still, it's such a great hook, I'd say WP:IAR and use it. RoySmith (talk) 23:19, 12 October 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you, very cool finds. "Comrades, Patronize The Triangle Dairy Restaurant." Love it. Andre🚐 23:27, 12 October 2024 (UTC)
I added a fact to the article, from a cited NYT review of the book, which could make a good hook: ... that growth of Jewish dairy restaurants was aided by better commercial refrigeration and periodic "meat strikes" against the high cost of kosher butchers? ProfGray (talk) 04:52, 13 October 2024 (UTC)
- It is an interesting tidbit, but it feels like it would be hard to properly explain within the space of a hook, the meat strikes I mean. The refrigeration thing is also interesting. I mean I guess it's a hook that pulls you in and says, what the heck do you mean, meat strikes? But then we don't really explain what they actually did or were in the article ... yet..., but it may be difficult to do so. I'll have to see what Katchor says about it in the full text. Andre🚐 05:29, 13 October 2024 (UTC)
- Andrevan, what about going after the quirky angle that emphasizes the unique pluralism of America and the distinct melting pot culture of New York? Something along the lines of "...that one of the few, last remaining Jewish dairy restaurants in New York's East Village is run by an Egyptian Muslim and Polish Catholic couple?" Of course, that would require updating the article.[1][2] Viriditas (talk) 20:25, 13 October 2024 (UTC)
- That is a great fact, though it's more about B&H Dairy. While I did include it in that article, I omitted it from this one, though not intentionally. We could shove it into this article but I'm not sure that I like it better than the Trotsky hook or the Narutolovehinata5 special edition straightforward hook. Also, ProfGray figured out about the meat strikes, they were the 1902 kosher meat boycott. That could make that fact usable. Andre🚐 23:18, 13 October 2024 (UTC)
- OK, I found a place to sneak it into the article and it went in easier than I thought, so you have a Viriditas special edition pluralistic ALT4.[1] Andre🚐 23:38, 13 October 2024 (UTC)
- Andrevan, what about going after the quirky angle that emphasizes the unique pluralism of America and the distinct melting pot culture of New York? Something along the lines of "...that one of the few, last remaining Jewish dairy restaurants in New York's East Village is run by an Egyptian Muslim and Polish Catholic couple?" Of course, that would require updating the article.[1][2] Viriditas (talk) 20:25, 13 October 2024 (UTC)
Based on my reading of the above, I think this article is ready for a full review. Z1720 (talk) 22:55, 29 October 2024 (UTC)
- Yes, the article is ready for review. ProfGray made some improvements and I also added the info Viriditas suggested for ALT4. Please let me know if we should spell out ALT4 or if it's clear enough from the earlier conversation. Andre🚐 23:26, 29 October 2024 (UTC)
References
- ^ "Jewish dairy restaurant: Difference between revisions - Wikipedia". en.wikipedia.org. Retrieved 2024-10-13.
Articles created/expanded on September 9
[edit]Alison Creagh
- ... that Alison Creagh (pictured) became a Member of the Order of Australia "for significant service to veterans and their families, and to rowing"? Source: https://www.gg.gov.au/sites/default/files/2020-07/QB20%20Gazette%20-%20O%20of%20A%20V6.pdf
Hawkeye7 (discuss) 19:09, 9 September 2024 (UTC).
- Comment (not a review). The COI banner on the article (with circumstances detailed on the article talk page) needs to be resolved before this can feature in DYK. Cleanup banners are not intended as a permanent mark of shame for articles, but rather to indicate that something can and should be cleaned up. The question then becomes: do the circumstances described on the talk page mean that there is a COI that should be cleaned up? What must be done to the article to clean it up so this banner can be removed? —David Eppstein (talk) 00:07, 14 October 2024 (UTC)
- WP:WTRMT:
neutrality-related templates such as {{COI}} (associated with the conflict of interest guideline) or {{POV}} (associated with the neutral point of view policy) strongly recommend that the tagging editor initiate a discussion (generally on the article's talk page) to support the placement of the tag. If the tagging editor failed to do so, or the discussion is dormant, and there is no other support for the template, it can be removed.
Hawkeye7 (discuss) 20:38, 14 October 2024 (UTC)- Do you dispute the COI? Or should I have placed a "paid editor" tag instead? This DYK should siomply be closed, as we shouldn't have such "scratch my back and I'll scratch yours" promotion. To quote from a question (not from me) from your 2019 RfA: "In one of the arbitration cases which resulted in a finding against you, there was a finding involving an undisclosed conflict-of-interest that resulted in serious subversion of the FA process. " We here have the same editor with an undisclosed COI at DYK. Here you start wikiwlawyering about the tag (even though I started a discussion about it on the talk page right away, where you haven't responded). Fram (talk) 07:38, 15 October 2024 (UTC)
- There was no such finding, and there was no undisclosed COI. What there is is an editor pursuing a pattern of harassment that got them blocked. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 09:49, 15 October 2024 (UTC)
- Are you really claiming that you have no COI wrt this article now? Or that the finding (passed 10 to 0) that " Hawkeye7 (talk · contribs) has a previously undisclosed conflict of interest [...]" didn't exist? Or both? Fram (talk) 10:40, 15 October 2024 (UTC)
- There was no undisclosed conflict of interest. I have never edited for pay. I was an unpaid Wikipedian in Residence with Paralympics Australia. I have only met the brigadier twice: at the Boccia, where the Chef de Mission introduced us and we talked about our work at Paris 2024, and at the Rowing three days later, when I asked for a photograph, which I took and is used in the article. Please cease the personal attacks on myself and David Eppstein, who was only posting a comment. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 18:02, 15 October 2024 (UTC)
- An organisation offers you all kind of help so you can write better or more articles about an event they are heavily involved in, and you then write an article about the CEO of that organisation. How is that not a blatant COI? And I have not made any personal attacks about you, and I haven't made any comment whatsoever about David Eppstein, so I have no idea where you see any personal attacks on them. Anyway, I'll raise this at the COIN board. Fram (talk) 18:30, 15 October 2024 (UTC)
- There was no undisclosed conflict of interest. I have never edited for pay. I was an unpaid Wikipedian in Residence with Paralympics Australia. I have only met the brigadier twice: at the Boccia, where the Chef de Mission introduced us and we talked about our work at Paris 2024, and at the Rowing three days later, when I asked for a photograph, which I took and is used in the article. Please cease the personal attacks on myself and David Eppstein, who was only posting a comment. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 18:02, 15 October 2024 (UTC)
- Are you really claiming that you have no COI wrt this article now? Or that the finding (passed 10 to 0) that " Hawkeye7 (talk · contribs) has a previously undisclosed conflict of interest [...]" didn't exist? Or both? Fram (talk) 10:40, 15 October 2024 (UTC)
- There was no such finding, and there was no undisclosed COI. What there is is an editor pursuing a pattern of harassment that got them blocked. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 09:49, 15 October 2024 (UTC)
- Do you dispute the COI? Or should I have placed a "paid editor" tag instead? This DYK should siomply be closed, as we shouldn't have such "scratch my back and I'll scratch yours" promotion. To quote from a question (not from me) from your 2019 RfA: "In one of the arbitration cases which resulted in a finding against you, there was a finding involving an undisclosed conflict-of-interest that resulted in serious subversion of the FA process. " We here have the same editor with an undisclosed COI at DYK. Here you start wikiwlawyering about the tag (even though I started a discussion about it on the talk page right away, where you haven't responded). Fram (talk) 07:38, 15 October 2024 (UTC)
- WP:WTRMT:
- Without getting into whether or not this should run, WP:DYKTAG explicitly allows articles with COI tags.--Launchballer 23:11, 15 October 2024 (UTC)
- Full review needed. BlueMoonset (talk) 04:14, 21 October 2024 (UTC)
- For context, reviewers should be aware of Wikipedia:Conflict of interest/Noticeboard#Alison Creagh.--Launchballer 04:33, 21 October 2024 (UTC)
Engelbrecht !Nawatiseb
- ... that Engel Nawatiseb left the Landless People's Movement only one month after joining?
- Source: "Former Deputy Minister of Information and Communication Technology Engel Nawatiseb has parted ways with the Landless People’s Movement (LPM) after joining the party a mere month ago." -[3]
- ALT1: ... that Engel Nawatiseb left the Landless People's Movement due to disagreements about who should drive during the party's fifth anniversary celebration? Source: "The source further claimed that these party members felt threatened by Nawatiseb’s position in the party. “People felt why is it only Nawatiseb driving the car and not them?” the source said. Following the complaints, the party allegedly took the car from Nawatiseb.", and "Another party source said Nawatiseb was insulted by a powerful young leader in the party about the usage of the car. “Apparently he wasn’t sharing the car with others. But once a car is assigned to you, it’s difficult to share, because once it is broken it becomes your responsibility,” another party source said. The source said the car was taken away a day after the party’s fifth anniversary. “On Sunday morning when they took the car, they embarrassed and insulted the man,” the source said." [4]
- Reviewed:
-Samoht27 (talk) 23:04, 11 September 2024 (UTC).
- I may review this nomination later today, but a quick comment is that while the source goes into detail about why !Nawatiseb was chosen to drive the car, why other party leaders were supposedly upset, and ostensible explanations as to why the car was reassigned, the article itself only talks about !Nawatiseb's embarrassment over the car being taken. I really like the second hook, but the disagreements should be detailed (or at least mentioned explicitly) in the article for the nomination to pass. Yue🌙 17:05, 12 September 2024 (UTC)
Also, I think it should be "a celebration of the party's fifth anniversary", because to my understanding he was to drive for the celebration in a specific part of Namibia, as he was the only person qualified in that area. Yue🌙 17:09, 12 September 2024 (UTC)
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Overall: References were spot-checked for verification; no issues arose. Both hooks are verified, but I prefer ALT1. However, I propose to the promoter this rewording of ALT1, which incorporates ALT0:
- ALT2: ... that Engel Nawatiseb reportedly left the Landless People's Movement just a month after joining because of disagreements over who should drive during the party's fifth anniversary celebration?
The sources are the two already given. Yue🌙 20:13, 12 September 2024 (UTC)
Sorry to butt in, but the article isn't good enough for DYK. At first, I intended to remove the stub tag (we don't run stubs at DYK) but it's arguably still a stub. There is nothing outside of his political career; no early life, education, or what he did before politics. The article therefore fails WP:DYKCOMPLETE. Secondly, the date and place of birth are both unreferenced and that's a violation of WP:BLP. Thirdly, about half the article deals with controversies and that feels unbalanced; hence it fails WP:NPOV. There's a lot more work required to get this ready. I'm sorry to be the bearer of bad news. Schwede66 08:17, 23 September 2024 (UTC)
- Samoht27 did you see the above? ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 14:19, 15 October 2024 (UTC)
- AirshipJungleman29 Yes, I did, I addressed the issues within the article and informed Schwede66 about the changes.-Samoht27 (talk) 15:58, 15 October 2024 (UTC)
- Yes, they did, AirshipJungleman29. It’s the last item in my talk page archive 46. I did not understand why the note was not placed here and me being informed via a ping as it hardly makes sense to to start a conversation in a separate place. Either way, I replied that I would leave it to the reviewer to assess. But now I see that the reviewer doesn’t know anything about this as there isn’t anything here about the matter. Which just demonstrates why discussions ought to be kept in one place! Schwede66 16:48, 15 October 2024 (UTC)
- @Schwede66: Is there anything else that needs to happen before this is approved? If not, are you willing to approve this hook, or should we ping the original reviewer? Z1720 (talk) 22:58, 29 October 2024 (UTC)
- Yes, they did, AirshipJungleman29. It’s the last item in my talk page archive 46. I did not understand why the note was not placed here and me being informed via a ping as it hardly makes sense to to start a conversation in a separate place. Either way, I replied that I would leave it to the reviewer to assess. But now I see that the reviewer doesn’t know anything about this as there isn’t anything here about the matter. Which just demonstrates why discussions ought to be kept in one place! Schwede66 16:48, 15 October 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on September 11
[edit]It's OK I'm OK
- ... that Tate McRae gets naked in her "It's OK I'm OK" music video?
- Source: News.com.au
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/WHOV
NØ 07:31, 16 September 2024 (UTC).
- :: A singer getting naked to promote her song? Propose to revise the hook. Sarvagyana guru (talk) 06:27, 7 October 2024 (UTC) * -->
- ALT1: ... that Tate McRae actually wore a tube top and shorts in her "It's OK I'm OK" music video and was edited to look naked later? Source: Capital
- ALT2: ... that Tate McRae's parents thought her "It's OK I'm OK" music video, in which she appears to be naked, was "so fire"? Source: Capital
- New hooks provided above. Ping to Sarvagyana guru in case you are interested in continuing the review.--NØ 09:33, 11 October 2024 (UTC)
- @Sarvagyana guru: Do you have a WP:DYKG-based reason for declining ALT0, because a similar hook's been suggested at Self-Ish? (My understanding is that while it is perfectly common for songstresses to wear little while promoting their music, it's unusual for them to wear nothing.) Also, @MaranoFan:, I did get your talk page message, but I was too overwhelmed to respond to it and I have a policy of reviewing oldest first anyway.--Launchballer 12:19, 26 October 2024 (UTC)
- No worries about any delays in your response, Launchballer. It is a bit sad that a nomination with multiple perfectly good hooks would have to wait for almost two months, though, when the DYK feature is intended to showcase newly improved content. I will note the first reviewer has not edited in 10 days.--NØ 09:38, 28 October 2024 (UTC)
- I hear you. I've been waiting over a month for someone to tick off a reviewer's hook at Gigi Perez.--Launchballer 16:38, 28 October 2024 (UTC)
- No worries about any delays in your response, Launchballer. It is a bit sad that a nomination with multiple perfectly good hooks would have to wait for almost two months, though, when the DYK feature is intended to showcase newly improved content. I will note the first reviewer has not edited in 10 days.--NØ 09:38, 28 October 2024 (UTC)
- @Sarvagyana guru: Do you have a WP:DYKG-based reason for declining ALT0, because a similar hook's been suggested at Self-Ish? (My understanding is that while it is perfectly common for songstresses to wear little while promoting their music, it's unusual for them to wear nothing.) Also, @MaranoFan:, I did get your talk page message, but I was too overwhelmed to respond to it and I have a policy of reviewing oldest first anyway.--Launchballer 12:19, 26 October 2024 (UTC)
- Full review needed by new reviewer; previous reviewer has not returned despite multiple pings. BlueMoonset (talk) 14:18, 30 October 2024 (UTC)
Shin Iza Gawna
- ... that after obtaining the philosopher's stone, the monk Shin Iza Gawna caused gold and silver to rain down in Pagan, bringing great wealth to his followers? Source: https://news-eleven.com/article/292466
- Reviewed:
Hteiktinhein (talk) 09:58, 11 September 2024 (UTC).
- This will not be a full review but DYK hooks need to be factual. If we run with this hook, we need to do something like ALT1: that according to legend, after obtaining the philosopher's stone, the monk Shin Iza Gawna caused gold and silver to rain down in Pagan, bringing great wealth to his followers? Bremps... 06:31, 13 September 2024 (UTC)
- agreed! Thanks for new hook but full review needed. Hteiktinhein (talk) 20:36, 17 September 2024 (UTC)
- Wait, please... I have an image of the monk's statue, and I’m trying to find it in my iCloud. I will upload it to Wiki Commons soon. Thanks! Hteiktinhein (talk) 21:23, 18 September 2024 (UTC)
- Photo added. It's good time to full review. Hteiktinhein (talk) 16:00, 24 September 2024 (UTC)
- agreed! Thanks for new hook but full review needed. Hteiktinhein (talk) 20:36, 17 September 2024 (UTC)
- Full review needed. BlueMoonset (talk) 00:14, 25 October 2024 (UTC)
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Overall: New enough and long enough. AGF on hook fact locked behind Snippet View and written in Burmese; also AGF on paraphrasing. Image should not be used, unless we can ascertain that the statue is public domain. Per commons:COM:FOP Myanmar, there is no FOP in Myanmar; consequently, although the image may have been freely licensed in good faith, the statue may preclude it from being true. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 17:30, 25 October 2024 (UTC)
- I changed the PD Myanmar license since the stone statue was installed in 1966, which is over 50 years ago. This allows us to use the picture under the PD Myanmar license. Thanks. Hteiktinhein (talk) 06:33, 30 October 2024 (UTC)
Pabhāvatī
- ... that the beauty of Princess Pabhāvatī was said to light up seven chambers, making lamps unnecessary? Source: Naing, Aung Min (2018). "ရတနာပုံဆရာဥ၏ မင်းကုသကွက်စိပ်" (PDF). Myanmar Academy of Arts and Science. XVI: 470.
- Reviewed:
Hteiktinhein (talk) 11:45, 11 September 2024 (UTC).
- The article is new enough and long enough, no QPQ is needed. The article seems mostly sourced to the primary source, but having a quick search I am satisfied the subject has further coverage. While the source given in this nomination is non-English and without a page number, the hook is sourced in the article to the primary source which does support it. The article would be improved by the use of page numbers for sources. I am unsure about the image copyright, I do not think it can be own work as it is a photograph of an artwork. CMD (talk) 09:25, 17 September 2024 (UTC)
- @Chipmunkdavis:, Thank you for reviewing my first DYK submission. The 'ancient-buddhist-texts' English source is a primary source, but I added it mainly for clarity and better understanding in English. The article is fully supported by the Burmese source, and even without the 'ancient-buddhist-texts' reference, it remains comprehensive. The Burmese source, Kutha Zatdaw (PDF), Myanmar Alin (in Burmese), 16 June 2005, p. 10, is sufficient to cover the entire article. An article from the Myanmar Academy of Arts and Science is also an additional reference that can be used to verify the entire content of the article. If you're unable to verify the Burmese source, please feel free to seek assistance from other Burmese-speaking editors. And I added more English source and page numbers.
- Regarding the image, the Buddhist temple artwork is not copyrighted, which is a common case in Myanmar. Buddhist Jataka tales are often depicted in many temples and monasteries across Myanmar. For instance, File:071 The Defeat of Alavaka (9022063790).jpg is an example. In Myanmar and Thailand, temple arts of Buddha cosmology are generally not subject to copyright. Thanks! Hteiktinhein (talk) 20:06, 17 September 2024 (UTC)
- No problem, it is an interesting article. On the sources, there is no specific issue with non-English sources (although the English backup is appreciated), but as a general point I would suggest including page numbers next to specific claims for all languages. Would you have a link for more information about that copyright situation? CMD (talk) 14:53, 19 September 2024 (UTC)
- As I’m not an expert on copyright, I’m not sure how to explain it very well. I do know that Myanmar is not a freedom of panorama country, but the Aung Myin Dipa Temple in Patheingyi was established around 1880 by Min Dipa, a minister and court official in King Thibaw's court. The paintings in the temple seem old, but there is no indication of the year they were made or the owner’s name. So, they could be considered under the PD-Myanmar license. However, I don’t want to delay or cause any arguments, so it’s fine to promote my DYK without the photo. I’m withdrawing the photo for now. Pls kindly review. Thanks! Hteiktinhein (talk) 02:59, 20 September 2024 (UTC)
- Good to go. CMD (talk) 05:44, 20 September 2024 (UTC)
- As I’m not an expert on copyright, I’m not sure how to explain it very well. I do know that Myanmar is not a freedom of panorama country, but the Aung Myin Dipa Temple in Patheingyi was established around 1880 by Min Dipa, a minister and court official in King Thibaw's court. The paintings in the temple seem old, but there is no indication of the year they were made or the owner’s name. So, they could be considered under the PD-Myanmar license. However, I don’t want to delay or cause any arguments, so it’s fine to promote my DYK without the photo. I’m withdrawing the photo for now. Pls kindly review. Thanks! Hteiktinhein (talk) 02:59, 20 September 2024 (UTC)
- No problem, it is an interesting article. On the sources, there is no specific issue with non-English sources (although the English backup is appreciated), but as a general point I would suggest including page numbers next to specific claims for all languages. Would you have a link for more information about that copyright situation? CMD (talk) 14:53, 19 September 2024 (UTC)
- Regarding the image, the Buddhist temple artwork is not copyrighted, which is a common case in Myanmar. Buddhist Jataka tales are often depicted in many temples and monasteries across Myanmar. For instance, File:071 The Defeat of Alavaka (9022063790).jpg is an example. In Myanmar and Thailand, temple arts of Buddha cosmology are generally not subject to copyright. Thanks! Hteiktinhein (talk) 20:06, 17 September 2024 (UTC)
Issues with tone remain, see discussions at WT:DYK and the teahouse. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 14:42, 29 October 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on September 12
[edit]Cannonball (MILW train)
- ... that Milwaukee, Wisconsin, had a commuter train nicknamed the Cannonball operating between suburban Watertown until 1972?
- Source: Sanders, Craig (2006). Amtrak in the Heartland. Bloomington, Indiana: Indiana University Press. p. 184. ISBN 978-0-253-34705-3
- Reviewed:
Central Corridor (talk) 19:16, 18 September 2024 (UTC).
- Hi @Central Corridor:, and welcome to DYK. I'm not doing a full review, but I will provide you with some feedback to help out. Firstly, I have tagged some uncited statements in the article that will need to be cited before this article can pass DYK per WP:DYKCITE. Second, I think the proposed hook will not meet the interesting requirement. It simply states a basic fact that even I, someone obsessed with trains to the point they're in my username, do not find particularly interesting. Fortunately, there are some things in the article that we can use to support a better hook. I was drawn to the sentence "The Cannonball gained a reputation for parties that frequently occurred on the Friday night train outbound from Milwaukee. Passengers brought aboard drinks to share, a band played, and the train often held at intermediate stops to replenish beer and ice."
- Based on that sentence, here's my proposed hook: "... that despite being an ordinary commuter train, the Cannonball was often the site of parties with a live band and drinks on Friday nights?"
- One other idea would be a hook about how 89% of riders on the pilot program said they would keep riding the train, yet it still wasn't restored. Trainsandotherthings (talk) 21:19, 11 October 2024 (UTC)
- @Central Corridor: Please respond to the above. Z1720 (talk) 22:59, 29 October 2024 (UTC)
- The nominator has not edited since October 7, 2024. This nomination may need to be adopted to move forward. Flibirigit (talk) 23:01, 29 October 2024 (UTC)
- I have adopted this nomination. I was able to modify one uncited sentence and add a source. I am working on the others, but I’m afraid I may have to remove them. Viriditas (talk) 18:29, 30 October 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you so much, @Viriditas:! Please comment here when it's ready for me to start the full review. Flibirigit (talk) 18:53, 30 October 2024 (UTC)
- I have adopted this nomination. I was able to modify one uncited sentence and add a source. I am working on the others, but I’m afraid I may have to remove them. Viriditas (talk) 18:29, 30 October 2024 (UTC)
- The nominator has not edited since October 7, 2024. This nomination may need to be adopted to move forward. Flibirigit (talk) 23:01, 29 October 2024 (UTC)
- @Central Corridor: Please respond to the above. Z1720 (talk) 22:59, 29 October 2024 (UTC)
Benjamin Franklin Shumard
- … that an assistant to Texas chief geologist Benjamin Franklin Shumard named an oak species after him, but then sabotaged his reinstatement by Governor Sam Houston?
- Source: in his honor: Buckley, Samuel Botsford (1860). "Description of Several New Species of Plants". Proc. Acad. Nat. Sci. Philadelphia. 12 (published 1861): 443–445 – via JSTOR. got him fired, see page 7, line 4 of this source: Roessler, A. R. "Reply to the charges made by SB Buckley, State Geologist of Texas, in his official report of 1874, against Dr. BF Shumard and AR Roessler." (1875). https://repositories.lib.utexas.edu/server/api/core/bitstreams/bc3d474b-4e53-4980-8240-9b48ba20b33d/content see also: p.144 (p2 of pdf): Young, Keith (1994-01-01). "The Shumards in Texas". Earth Sciences History. 13 (2): 143–153.
- ALT1: ... that Texas chief geologist Benjamin Franklin Shumard had an oak species named in his honor by an assistant in 1860, who then stymied Shumard's reappointment by Texas Governor Sam Houston? Source: same as above, trying different wording
- ALT2: ... that Benjamin Franklin Shumard was an influential geologist in Texas before serving as a professor of obstetrics in Missouri? Source: https://meridian.allenpress.com/esh/article-abstract/13/2/143/204849/The-Shumards-in-Texas see abstract and p.149
- ALT3: ... that Benjamin Franklin Shumard discovered a marine fossil layer in the Guadalupe Mountains, which was disputed for over 40 years? Source: https://meridian.allenpress.com/esh/article-abstract/13/2/143/204849/The-Shumards-in-Texas see abstract and p.149
- ALT4:... that an assistant to Texas chief geologist Benjamin Franklin Shumard named an oak species in his honor, but then foiled his reinstatement after he was let go by newly-elected Governor Sam Houston? Source: same as proposed hook. Alt4 was original attempt, proposed hook revised per discussion with @Viriditas:
- Comments: See discussion of hooks, below.
- Reviewed:
ProfGray (talk) 18:18, 12 September 2024 (UTC).
- Comment: Hello, professor! I like what you are trying to do, but we want to avoid writing a cell phone novel. Let's also try to drill down and figure out what is interesting. First thing that caught my eye was that this man was a practicing geologist and a practicing physician! That's unusual and interesting, don't you think? He was a State Geologist for Texas and a professor of obstetrics at the University of Missouri! That kind of thing would be unheard of today. Further, you mention he was involved in several geological controversies and his research was expanded upon by others. I feel that you are not giving us the most interesting parts of the article. :-) Viriditas (talk) 22:59, 16 October 2024 (UTC)
- @ProfGray: Do you have suggestions for additional hooks, based on the above? Z1720 (talk) 23:00, 29 October 2024 (UTC)
- @Z1720: Added two ALT hooks. I'm fascinating by the original hook, but fine with me if others have different taste. Thanks for the nudge! ProfGray (talk) 02:03, 30 October 2024 (UTC)
- @ProfGray: Try shortening the original hook with an ALT4. Viriditas (talk) 02:55, 30 October 2024 (UTC)
- This shortens it. Try something similar to this:
- … that an assistant to Texas chief geologist Benjamin Franklin Shumard named an oak species after him, but then sabotaged his reinstatement by Governor Sam Houston?
- It's great to get a specific editing suggestion, with which I've replaced the proposed hook.ProfGray (talk) 13:52, 30 October 2024 (UTC)
ALT0 is shortened considerably now. Needs new review. Viriditas (talk) 18:22, 30 October 2024 (UTC)
U Wasawa
- ... that the Buddhist monk U Wasawa founded an armed Pyusawhti militia at his monastery and commanded his forces to burn down several villages? Source: https://burmese.dvb.no/post/570515
- Reviewed:
Hteiktinhein (talk) 09:51, 12 September 2024 (UTC).
- Hi, why is no one interested in viewing this DYK for a long time? Please let me know how many days the review process usually takes. Hteiktinhein (talk) 18:19, 25 September 2024 (UTC)
- Hello Hteiktinhein! DYK is user driven, with various incentives to review hooks such as to complete their QPQ, interest, or simply goodwill. Predominantly foreign-language sourced articles or longer articles tend to take time to review due to the necessity to verify the various points. It is important to understand that, because sometimes it can take hours or even months, with no guarantee on the article being reviewed as soon as you want it to. Patience is important, and it is important to keep in mind there is no inherent rush for the nomination to move forward once it has been put out there. Ornithoptera (talk) 03:03, 2 October 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on September 13
[edit]Virginia Beach Police Department
- ... that the Virginia Beach Police Department has a force larger than that of Richmond, the state's capital?
- Reviewed:
Erin (SSBelfastFanatic) (talk) 16:44, 17 September 2024 (UTC).
- Promising factoid, but with no provided citation to back it up here. Article was created 15 days ago (on September 3)—a week and change beyond the normal eligibility deadline—but became an AFC graduate on the 13th, so at least we're good here. Said article also has a {{more sources needed section}} banner, which fails WP:DYKCOMPLETE and might as well be addressed ASAP. To the editor now known as @PhoenixCaelestis: As far as your DYK skills are concerned, you're starting to get there, and with two go-rounds in this arena so far, I'll forgive you for that. Wishing you luck next time, and best of editing! --Slgrandson (How's my egg-throwing coleslaw?) 12:15, 18 September 2024 (UTC)
- @Slgrandson: I have solved the tag by yeeting the whole section and several others, that one per WP:DUE.--Launchballer 14:08, 28 September 2024 (UTC)
- @Slgrandson: Is this approved? If not, what does @PhoenixCaelestis: have to do? I note that your review makes no mention of a copyright check and I think you should do one.--Launchballer 21:02, 24 October 2024 (UTC)
- @Slgrandson: I have solved the tag by yeeting the whole section and several others, that one per WP:DUE.--Launchballer 14:08, 28 September 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on September 15
[edit]Czarodziejski okręt
- ... that The Magic Ship is a Polish robinsonade from 1914, inspired by the works of Jules Verne? Source: https://books.google.co.kr/books?newbks=1&newbks_redir=0&id=ZX4ZAAAAMAAJ&dq=umi%C5%84ski+%22W+g%C5%82%C4%99binach+oceanu%22&focus=searchwithinvolume&q=%22Verne%27owsk%C4%85+Szko%C5%82%C4%85+Robinson%C3%B3w%22
- Reviewed:
- Comment: QPQ pending.
Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 15:08, 24 September 2024 (UTC).
- I will be closing this in 24 hours if I don't see a valid QPQ before then @Piotrus:.--Launchballer 14:39, 25 September 2024 (UTC)
- Full review needed.--Launchballer 18:07, 26 September 2024 (UTC)
Nathania Ong
- ... that Nathania Ong had not even seen the musical when she was offered the role of Éponine in Les Misérables?
KINGofLETTUCE 👑 🥬 13:49, 17 September 2024 (UTC).
- More of a comment than a review, but while I do think the hook is marginally interesting, I imagine theater actors being offered roles in plays they'd never seen before is actually not uncommon. As such, I wonder if additional hook angles could be proposed here. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 10:07, 18 September 2024 (UTC)
- @Narutolovehinata5: that's a reasonable point, though this was what I deemed to be the most interesting "factoid" in the article. And even if it really were the case (that this is "actually not uncommon"), how many times have such hooks appeared on DYK? It sure can't beat the river-related hooks of yesteryear 😆 KINGofLETTUCE 👑 🥬 14:15, 18 September 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on September 16
[edit]Krzyż i półksiężyc
- ... that the 1913 Polish novel The Cross and the Crescent is one of the earliest examples of military science fiction genre in Polish literature? Source: https://sf-encyclopedia.com/entry/uminski_wladyslaw
- Reviewed:
- Comment: QPQ pending
Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 15:20, 24 September 2024 (UTC).
- I will be closing this in 24 hours if I don't see a valid QPQ before then @Piotrus:.--Launchballer 14:39, 25 September 2024 (UTC)
- QPQ provided. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 19:50, 5 October 2024 (UTC)
Krwawy chleb
- ... that the 1909 Polish novel Bloody Bread about the struggles of Polish immigrants in the US was in the 1950s briefly criticized by the Polish communist censors for "glorifying the United States"? Source: http://wrh.edu.pl/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/299_PDFsam_WRH-t.-XII-2015.pdf
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/KAUT-TV (added from below September 29)
- Comment:
Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 15:17, 24 September 2024 (UTC).
- I will be closing this in 24 hours if I don't see a valid QPQ before then @Piotrus:.--Launchballer 14:39, 25 September 2024 (UTC)
- @Launchballer: Which policy allows such a speedy closure? I was under the impression QPQ can be done several days or even weeks later, while the nom is on hold. For now, have one here: Template:Did you know nominations/KAUT-TV . I will try to do QPQs for others later this week. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 16:17, 25 September 2024 (UTC)
WP:QPQ: A nomination which doesn't include a QPQ (and is not from an exempt nominator) may be closed as "incomplete" without warning.--Launchballer 00:19, 26 September 2024 (UTC)
- @Piotrus: Per a recent rule change as a result of this discussion, the old rule where QPQs must be provided within a week of the nomination has been phased out. Instead, QPQs should be provided at the time of the nomination, and any nomination that does not immediately provide a QPQ is liable for closure. Doing the QPQs "later this week" is no longer sufficient: they have to be given at the time of the nomination, and you must provide them as soon as possible if you do not want your nominations to be closed. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 02:07, 26 September 2024 (UTC)
- @Launchballer and Narutolovehinata5: Thanks for the heads up. I am not very happy with this change. I've always done my QPQs on time, with submission (and I've done hundreds of them), but just recently someone translated a bunch of my articles form pl wiki without heads up, and I am trying to rescue some of them for DYKs within the time period - and I am a bit busy IRL so for the first time I delayed QPQ. And then this happens. Sigh. You know you can trust me do to my QPQs, no? It's not like I will drop noms here and run. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 02:16, 26 September 2024 (UTC)
- Launchballer already gave an ultimatum for your open nominations: provide a QPQ within 24 hours of the messages, or they will be closed. If you do not think it will be feasible to complete them all in time then it may be better to just let them go for now and try to avoid this repeating in the future. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 02:23, 26 September 2024 (UTC)
- Just noting that a QPQ was provided for this nom, so it needs a full review.--Launchballer 21:30, 29 September 2024 (UTC)
- Launchballer already gave an ultimatum for your open nominations: provide a QPQ within 24 hours of the messages, or they will be closed. If you do not think it will be feasible to complete them all in time then it may be better to just let them go for now and try to avoid this repeating in the future. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 02:23, 26 September 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on September 18
[edit]The United States of America (album)
- ... that Columbia Records wanted to change a song title on the 1968 album The United States of America by the band of the same name, because it referenced the then recently deceased Che Guevara?
- ALT1: ... that the title of the 1968 album The United States of America was intended to be a political statement akin to "hanging the flag upside down"?
- Reviewed:
- Comment: Had to find an alternate source that I could easily link to as the article uses a book source
Iostn (talk) 21:45, 23 September 2024 (UTC).
- Not a review, but ALT2: ... that the United States of America falls short of being really satisfying? would make an excellent April Fools' hook.--Launchballer 22:17, 23 September 2024 (UTC)
- It would be brilliant. But add the italics and the quotation marks and it should work reasonably well on any day. Surtsicna (talk) 20:02, 28 October 2024 (UTC)
- The article was promoted to GA status 5 days before the DYK nomination. It is, unsurprisingly, also long enough and it meets the sourcing, neutrality, and copyright requirements. The hooks proposed by Iostn are fine, but there is a clear potential for something much grander. See Launchballer's suggestion. We rarely get such gems in the rough, Iostn, but let me know if you cannot bother and I will approve your original hook. Surtsicna (talk) 20:13, 28 October 2024 (UTC)
- Hi, Surtsicna, I think I'm going to hang on with this nom and wait for the April Fools' proposal, if possible Iostn (talk) 15:51, 29 October 2024 (UTC)
- @Iostn: While quirky, I do not think this hook fits the spirit of the type of hooks used in the April Fools DYK set. Z1720 (talk) 23:06, 29 October 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on September 19
[edit]Chauncey Archiquette
- ... that Chauncey Archiquette was Jim Thorpe's idol?
- Source: Path Lit by Lightning: The Life of Jim Thorpe (Thorpe said "[Archiquette] was my football idol and in our scrub games with the homemade football I always tried to emulate him") / Carlisle Vs. Army ("[Thorpe] was particularly taken with the team's star runner, an Indian boy named Chauncey Archiquette ... One day, Thorpe told himself, I'm going to be as tough as Chauncey ... [Thorpe, after watching practice] raced back and forth over the empty field, zigging here, zagging there, trying to emulate his idol.")
BeanieFan11 (talk) 16:56, 19 September 2024 (UTC).
- @BeanieFan11: Although Thorpe was a highly accomplished and iconic athlete of his era, I'm not actually sure if most Americans today know who he is or at least recognize his name (speaking as a non-American). In addition, I don't know if Thorpe is a name that is known internationally. As such, the hook as currently written may not be broadly interesting enough to meet WP:DYKINT. Additional hook suggestions are probably needed here. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 11:04, 20 September 2024 (UTC)
- I considered this when making the nomination, but Thorpe is one of the most famous athletes of all time. Books are written about him nearly every year and we still have articles from the past few months such as "Thorpe was and still is the greatest athlete in the history of sports" / "On this day in history, May 28, 1888, Jim Thorpe, 'greatest athlete in the world,' is born" – I would be very surprised if the vast majority of people don't recognize his name. I feel like it may lose some of its 'punch', but if really necessary, we could say something like ALT1 ... that Chauncey Archiquette was the idol of Jim Thorpe, regarded as one of the greatest athletes in history? BeanieFan11 (talk) 14:45, 20 September 2024 (UTC)
- I'll probably have to cite WP:DYKHOOKSTYLE here:
don't assume everyone worldwide is familiar with your subject
. And for what it's worth, I made a bit of an informal survey about this on Discord, and the three editors who responded said they didn't know who Thorpe is. Note that my thoughts about the hook are independent of the survey; in fact, I made the survey because I wanted to know if American editors might find the hook interesting and to check my own thoughts. As for the nomination itself, the safest option here is probably to try a completely different angle. While ALT1 is arguably a better option, as you said, it loses some of the punch with the additional context. Thorpe is no Lionel Messi or Michael Jordan to warrant the angle, methinks. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 23:43, 20 September 2024 (UTC)- I'm rather stunned at the idea that Thorpe isn't well known enough. I don't really see any other good options with the article as well. Would changing the hook so that it does not mention Thorpe, but still has that aspect, work? – I.e. something like ALT2 ... that the "greatest athlete in the world" was inspired by Chauncey Archiquette? (I'd need to add the quote to the article, but Thorpe has widely been called that.) BeanieFan11 (talk) 23:54, 20 September 2024 (UTC)
- I think that's a better hook, but I'm not sure if it will pass scrutiny. DYK usually wants quotes in quote hooks to be attributed whenever possible, but adding an attribution to the hook would probably weaken the article's punch. It might be a good idea to seek opinions from other editors who are experts on wordsmithing like RoySmith, Theleekycauldron, or Launchballer. In any case, I'd suggest dropping any hook that directly mentions Jim Thorpe per WP:DYKHOOKSTYLE and either having only ALT2 for consideration for now, or trying a different angle. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 11:01, 21 September 2024 (UTC)
- I also have never heard of Jim Thorpe, although that may be because I know little about sports in general. I quite like ALT3: ... that tacklers "bounced off" Chauncey Archiquette "as if he were a brick wall"?.--Launchballer 15:46, 24 September 2024 (UTC)
- That works. BeanieFan11 (talk) 15:49, 24 September 2024 (UTC)
- I also have never heard of Jim Thorpe, although that may be because I know little about sports in general. I quite like ALT3: ... that tacklers "bounced off" Chauncey Archiquette "as if he were a brick wall"?.--Launchballer 15:46, 24 September 2024 (UTC)
- I think that's a better hook, but I'm not sure if it will pass scrutiny. DYK usually wants quotes in quote hooks to be attributed whenever possible, but adding an attribution to the hook would probably weaken the article's punch. It might be a good idea to seek opinions from other editors who are experts on wordsmithing like RoySmith, Theleekycauldron, or Launchballer. In any case, I'd suggest dropping any hook that directly mentions Jim Thorpe per WP:DYKHOOKSTYLE and either having only ALT2 for consideration for now, or trying a different angle. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 11:01, 21 September 2024 (UTC)
- I'm rather stunned at the idea that Thorpe isn't well known enough. I don't really see any other good options with the article as well. Would changing the hook so that it does not mention Thorpe, but still has that aspect, work? – I.e. something like ALT2 ... that the "greatest athlete in the world" was inspired by Chauncey Archiquette? (I'd need to add the quote to the article, but Thorpe has widely been called that.) BeanieFan11 (talk) 23:54, 20 September 2024 (UTC)
- I'll probably have to cite WP:DYKHOOKSTYLE here:
- Full review needed now that hook discussion has taken place. BlueMoonset (talk) 15:44, 25 October 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on September 20
[edit]Gitmo playlist
- ... that Guantanamo Bay prison probably didn't have an official playlist?
- ALT1: ... that the creator of the theme song for Barney laughed when he found out it was used during American interrogations? Source: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2008/jun/19/usa.guantanamo
- ALT2: ... that Drowning Pool played "Bodies" at Gitmo after it was used to torture a detainee there? Source: https://www.vice.com/en/article/postcard-from-guantanamo-slahi-guantanamo-diary/, https://www.miamiherald.com/news/nation-world/world/americas/guantanamo/article160037809.html
- Reviewed:
- Comment: I personally prefer ALT1, but it's a minor preference. Edit October 31: New hook added, which I think I like more.
Based5290 :3 (talk) 04:02, 23 September 2024 (UTC).
Khun Tan (mystic)
- ... that the Pa'O religious figure Khun Tan seducing hundreds of young girls by portraying himself as the next Buddha? Source: https://burma.irrawaddy.com/women-in-media/2017/11/08/145696.html
- ALT1: ... that in hopes of gaining good luck, young girls in the Alantaya area were offering their first virginity to Khun Tan, who claimed to be the future Buddha? Source: https://www.irrawaddy.com/news/burma/police-hunt-man-claimed-next-buddha-abuse-young-women.html
- Reviewed:
Hteiktinhein (talk) 06:34, 20 September 2024 (UTC).
- Neither hook meets WP:DYKBLP. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 07:02, 21 September 2024 (UTC)
- I understand. How about the news hooks below:
ALT1-a: ... that, in hopes of gaining good luck, six girls from the Alantaya area were married to Khun Tan, a layman who claimed to be the future Buddha?
ALT1-b: ... that Khun Tan, a young guy, is worshipped as a bodhisattva in the Alantaya religious area?
ALT1-c: ... that girls in the Alantaya religious area believe that marrying the layman Khun Tan would bring blessings? Hteiktinhein (talk) 18:52, 21 September 2024 (UTC)
Genocide in the Hebrew Bible
- ... that the biblical command to "spare no one" has been applied to Native Americans, Rwandan Tutsi, and Palestinians?
(t · c) buidhe 05:50, 20 September 2024 (UTC).
- I don't see the hook in the article. It is OR to interpret labelling one's enemy "Amalek" as applying biblical command to "spare no one". I haven't checked the sources, but the article does not support the hook. Srnec (talk) 17:14, 21 September 2024 (UTC)
- Well, the original hook I was thinking of is ALT1 below but I wasn't sure if it would be accepted either.
- ALT1: ... that genocide in the Hebrew Bible has been cited as an inspiration by the Crusaders, Rwandan Hutu, and Israeli leaders? (t · c) buidhe 02:55, 22 September 2024 (UTC)
- I'll take a stab at this. I trust Buidhe to be the subject expert and do good research, but I concur that the section on "Justification for violence" here is a bit underdeveloped for the hooks proposed. I can't find the text of the article clearly confirming ALT0. As for ALT1, I'd ask "justification for what"? Carrying genocide? But that is not clear from the short quote about Pope Urban in the 11th century and then... Martin Luther? Did Luther called or tried to justify some genocide? I'd ask for that section to be expanded, clearly stating who said what, and in particular, who might have tried to justify genocide. The second paragraph in that section is more clear, and perhaps an ALT2 about "Genocide in the Hebrew Bible being used by Israeli leaders to justify their actions in the Israel-Hamas war" might be fine, and would probably draw more views too. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 05:06, 24 September 2024 (UTC)
- Alt1 isn't about justification, rather inspiration. Leaving aside Luther's arguably genocidal stated beliefs about Jewish people, something along the lines of your hook may be better. (t · c) buidhe 03:43, 28 September 2024 (UTC)
- ALT2 ... that Israeli leaders have described their enemies in the current Gaza war as targets of divinely commanded genocide?
(t · c) buidhe 03:43, 28 September 2024 (UTC)
- I think most readers would probably still interpret that as "Israel is committing a genocide in Gaza because the Bible told them to", which I don't see support for in the sourcing. theleekycauldron (talk • she/her) 18:33, 6 October 2024 (UTC)
- @Piotrus: Have your concerns been resolved? If not, what else needs to be done? Z1720 (talk) 23:10, 29 October 2024 (UTC)
- @Z1720: @Buidhe: @Theleekycauldron: Sorry for late reply, I wasn't pinged and my watchlist have moved beyond being manageable years ago. I'd approve hook 2 (ALT2) except new concerns have been raised by theleekycauldron and they should be replied to by the nom. Can we come up with a better hook or reword something to address them? (I still think the justification section in article is poorly written, but that is not a DYK-level concern). --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 01:20, 30 October 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on September 21
[edit]Jeya Wilson
- ... that Jeya Wilson invited New Zealand prime minister David Lange to debate the moral indefensibility of nuclear weapons at the Oxford Union?
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Sunny Choi
- Comment: DrThneed wrote the bio but she's a tad busy, hence she's asked me whether I would like to see this through the DYK process. I'm only too happy to oblige as Jeya Wilson is such a fascinating person. If you have time, I suggest you watch her opening speech at the Oxford Union debate, which is linked from the source above. And if you want to be in for a treat, wach David Lange's speech (second-to-last speaker) – an absolute stunner of a performance. Almost every New Zealander knows one of the lines that he delivered in that speech.
Schwede66 09:03, 21 September 2024 (UTC).
Articles created/expanded on September 22
[edit]Barquq Castle
- ... that the front façade, gateway, mosque and minaret of Barquq Castle in the Gaza Strip were still standing until 2024?
- Source: Abu Khalaf 1983, p. 182: "Nowadays the Khan is almost demolished, but the front part, which consists of the fac;ade including the gateway and the Mosque with its minaret still stands."
Onceinawhile (talk) 00:03, 23 September 2024 (UTC).
- @Onceinawhile: Please note that per a recent rule change, a QPQ must be provided at the time of the nomination or at most immediately after. The nomination may be failed without further warning if a QPQ is not provided as soon as possible. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 00:53, 23 September 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks for letting me know. I have done the QPQ now. Onceinawhile (talk) 06:04, 23 September 2024 (UTC)
- Full review needed now the QPQ has been submitted. BlueMoonset (talk) 04:20, 21 October 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on September 23
[edit]Korzeniacy, czyli Jesień wsamrazków
- ... that a modern Polish fairy tale, written during the time of martial law in Poland in the 1980s, mixes the themes of real-world environmental protection and fantasty-like gnomes? Source: Kowalczykówna (1989) cited in the article
Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 05:32, 1 October 2024 (UTC).
Muthkwey
- ... that məθkʷəy̓ was not harvested or walked over, because it had grown from the droppings of a two-headed serpent?
- Source: "Another story tells that our ancestors had never seen this plant before, and that they considered it to be sacred because it came from sʔi:łqəy̓ (Musqueam Indian Band, 2011). Our people were not permitted to walk over or harvest it." Sparrow, Corrina (2006). "Reclaiming Spaces Between: Coast Salish Two Spirit Identities and Experiences". Bachelor of Social Work, University of Victoria: 50–51. Retrieved 20 September 2024. "muthkwey come again year come next.year muthkwey. When it was another year, next year then that plant muthkwey spread out when it grew. It bloomed like any other plant. But it was not like any other plant. The old people did not step on it. It was thought sacred. It was from the droppings of the monster, the seelthkey." Suttles, Wayne P. (2004). Musqueam Reference Grammar. Page 545 UBC Press. ISBN 978-0-7748-1002-9. Retrieved 20 September 2024
- Reviewed: Noken system
- Comment:
Will work on the QPQ shortly,thank you to the reviewer in advance! Done the QPQ!
Ornithoptera (talk) 23:02, 30 September 2024 (UTC).
- @Ornithoptera: Just a question: is the weird spelling of the subject on purpose? IIRC, non-standard/stylized spellings are discouraged on DYK. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 12:22, 2 October 2024 (UTC)
- Hi Narutolovehinata5, the "weird spelling" in question is the Americanist phonetic notation that is used for Indigenous North American languages. Like many terms in the languages of the Pacific Northwest Coast, məθkʷəy̓ is not "romanized" in the traditional sense because they still use Latin characters and contemporary inclusions of the notation are often unedited, such as "ʔálʔal Café" rather than "All-all Cafe" I will provide some examples of such:
- The hən̓q̓əmin̓əm̓ word “məθkʷəy̓” was initially transcribed in English as “grass,” resulting in xʷməθkʷəy̓əm (Musqueam) People being known as “People of the River Grass.”
- The tall grass is to represent Musqueam, the flowering plant məθkʷəy̓, which grows in the Fraser River estuary. Stories have been passed on from generation to generation that explains how we became known as the xʷməθkʷəy̓əm — People of the məθkʷəy̓ plant.
- The Musqueam people are the people of the məθkʷəy̓, the river grass, and we have stewarded the mouth of the Fraser River since time immemorial.
- The name xʷməθkʷəy̓əm (Musqueam) relates back to the flowering plant, məθkʷəy̓, which once abundantly grew throughout Musqueam territory.
- The məθkʷəy̓ was described as a saχʷəl, which means “grass” or "plant." It was initially transcribed to English as a grass, and for some time the xʷməθkʷəy̓əm people have been known as “people of the river grass.”
- For further reading, here is a quote from the University of British Columbia on the matter: "In the 1970’s, the Musqueam community began their journey towards language revitalization, and formally adopted the North American Phonetic Alphabet (NAPA). NAPA allows the sounds of hən̓q̓əmin̓əm̓ to be more accurately conveyed in writing. The symbols that may be unfamiliar to you, including ə, q̓, θ, xʷ, and more have corresponding phonetics that you can learn in order to pronounce written hən̓q̓əmin̓əm̓."
- There is no "standard" transliteration, most English language sources refer to the plant as məθkʷəy̓ with no alteration. The article title was based on the one that Wayne Suttles employed in his 2004 Musqueam Reference Grammar, but there are multiple ways to transliterate this term without a standardized form, nor is there much of a need to, as the base of the notation are Latin characters. I thought it would be ideal to use the term with no alteration as many other sources have before. Ornithoptera (talk) 21:04, 3 October 2024 (UTC)
- I see. I was asking because, from what I remember, DYK usually doesn't use non-Latin characters in hooks. I'm pretty sure there was a guideline about it (I think using the language template?) Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 22:24, 3 October 2024 (UTC)
- To my understanding Narutolovehinata5, the Americanist phonetic notation is (to a degree) the Latin alphabet, and I'm sure there have been instances where letters such as Þ or ð have made their way into DYK before. For the record, I am comfortable with adjusting it if at the end of the day it is in violation of DYK guidelines, but I thought it might be good to have my thoughts on the matter before jumping the gun. I do hope that there isn't a double standard for some non-standard characters from certain languages over others. Ornithoptera (talk) 00:12, 4 October 2024 (UTC)
- I see. I was asking because, from what I remember, DYK usually doesn't use non-Latin characters in hooks. I'm pretty sure there was a guideline about it (I think using the language template?) Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 22:24, 3 October 2024 (UTC)
Sonya Friedman
- ... that self-help psychologist Sonya Friedman published a book on women who were monogamous with two men at the same time?
- Source: "What binds them is their having a two-track existence that allows them to preserve their marriage while having a more fulfilling relationship. They are monogamous to two men." - In “Secret Loves” (Crown), therapist Sonya Friedman…, Chicago Tribune
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/History of chocolate
- Comment: The article was moved to mainspace with this edit.
SilverserenC 23:42, 24 September 2024 (UTC).
- ALT1 that according to self-help psychologist Sonya Friedman, men are just desserts? Thriley (talk) 01:35, 25 September 2024 (UTC)
- ALT2 that according to self-help psychologist Sonya Friedman, a hero is more than just a sandwich? Thriley (talk) 02:14, 25 September 2024 (UTC)
- ALT3 that self-help psychologist Sonya Friedman, encouraged women to "give up junk food love and find a naturally sweet man"? Thriley (talk) 02:19, 25 September 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on September 24
[edit]Sankar Montoute
- ... that Sankar Montoute was the first NFL player from Trinidad and Tobago?
- Source: PFR
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Jamaludin Malik (legislator)
- Comment: Will do QPQ within next 24 hours.
BeanieFan11 (talk) 23:42, 1 October 2024 (UTC).
- interesting hook. However the cited reference does not explicitly state that Sankar Montoute is the first player from Trinidad and Tobago in NFL. There are names of 5 other players from Trinidad and Tobago in this list. Cited source may be updated Sarvagyana guru (talk) 06:35, 7 October 2024 (UTC)
- @Sarvagyana guru: Row five in the hook source has the dates when each of the five players started their careers. As the source states, Montoute debuted in 1987, which is earlier than the others, who played later (Curvin Richards 1991, Kerry Carter 2003, Anthony Herrera 2005, Yannik Cudjoe-Virgil 2015). BeanieFan11 (talk) 23:18, 7 October 2024 (UTC)
- @BeanieFan11:: You are right. Agreed. Sarvagyana guru (talk) 11:34, 9 October 2024 (UTC)
- @Sarvagyana guru: Row five in the hook source has the dates when each of the five players started their careers. As the source states, Montoute debuted in 1987, which is earlier than the others, who played later (Curvin Richards 1991, Kerry Carter 2003, Anthony Herrera 2005, Yannik Cudjoe-Virgil 2015). BeanieFan11 (talk) 23:18, 7 October 2024 (UTC)
- @Sarvagyana guru: What else needs to be done to approve this hook? If it is ready, are you able to approve this? Z1720 (talk) 23:12, 29 October 2024 (UTC)
Ye Gongchuo
- ... that Ye Gongchuo (pictured) worked for emperors, warlords, and republicans, before leaving politics to focus on art?
- Source: Mostly supported by Powell, J. B., ed. (1925). Who's Who in China. Shanghai: Millard's Review.; leaving politics is supported by Andrews, Julia F.; Shen, Kuiyi (2012). The Art of Modern China. Berkeley, California: University of California Press. ISBN 978-0-520-23814-5.
- ALT1: ... that Ye Gongchuo (pictured) dealt duck head pills in Shanghai? Source: Yan Jiasen (严家森) Ma Xiao (马潇) (5 August 2003). "[祖孙篇 叶衍兰 叶恭绰] 进则为达官,退亦是名士" [[Grandparents and Grandchildren: Ye Yanlan and Ye Gongchuo] If You Advance, You Will Be a High Official; If You Retreat, You Will Be a Famous Scholar]. Southern Metropolis Daily (in Chinese). Archived from the original on 12 August 2022. Retrieved 23 September 2024. (他曾极力推动成立上海博物馆,后来还把重金购得的稀世珍品——晋朝王献之的《鸭头丸帖》真迹,慨然捐献给了上海博物馆。; "He had strongly promoted the establishment of the Shanghai Museum, and later donated the rare treasure he had purchased at a high price, the original copy of the "Duck Head Pills" by Wang Xianzhi of the Jin Dynasty, to the Shanghai Museum.")
- ALT2: ... that, when China needed to standardize its railway terminology, it sent for a poet? Source: Powell, J. B., ed. (1925). Who's Who in China. Shanghai: Millard's Review.; Yan Jiasen (严家森) Ma Xiao (马潇) (5 August 2003). "[祖孙篇 叶衍兰 叶恭绰] 进则为达官,退亦是名士" [[Grandparents and Grandchildren: Ye Yanlan and Ye Gongchuo] If You Advance, You Will Be a High Official; If You Retreat, You Will Be a Famous Scholar]. Southern Metropolis Daily (in Chinese). Archived from the original on 12 August 2022. Retrieved 23 September 2024. (via Guangdong Library)
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/1961 Pittsburg State Gorillas football team
- Comment: Yes, I know ALT1 is a bit out there. It might be worth an April Fools slot.
— Chris Woodrich (talk) 21:58, 24 September 2024 (UTC).
Expandable card game
- ... that compared to collectible card games, expandable card games focus more on storytelling and cooperation? Source: https://www.playthepast.org/?p=6913 and its subsequent parts linked in the article as refs
- ALT1: ... that expandable card games are sometimes known as "living card games", but the latter term, while popular, is trademarked by a single company, preventing its use by competitors? Source: http://www.pairofdiceparadise.com/expandable-card-games-ecg-trademarks-patents-3-of-3-a167.php
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Genocide in the Hebrew Bible
Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 13:43, 24 September 2024 (UTC).
Articles created/expanded on September 25
[edit]Dalibor Riccardi
- ... that new San Marino head of state Dalibor Riccardi played over 70 matches in the country's football league?
- Source: San Marino RTV mentions (translated) "Passionate about sports, he played football at a competitive level"; Soccerway has 71 matches in national football league
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Dick Moss
- Comment: It looks like I'm a few hours late. Hope that's alright.
BeanieFan11 (talk) 02:15, 3 October 2024 (UTC).
Kazimierz Sakowicz
- ... that Polish journalist and resistance member Kazimierz Sakowicz spent three years recording the deaths of tens of thousands in his diary, which was eventually published decades later? Source: Margolis (2005), or Wilczewski (2009), or Guesnet (2003)
Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 14:31, 25 September 2024 (UTC).
- Article is interesting and the hook is captivating and not too baity. I removed the picture of Sakowicz, because it clearly isn't him and the picture isn't from 1939.Marcelus (talk) 11:47, 26 September 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on September 26
[edit]Culinary Class Wars
- ... that the judges of the Culinary Class Wars (pictured) were blindfolded and spoon-fed?
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Magic (play)
- Comment: There's some clean-up to do now the first season has finished but it's time to make a start
Andrew🐉(talk) 20:52, 2 October 2024 (UTC).
- At the time of nomination the article was exactly 7 days old (which fits I guess), and the length seems to fit standard. There are some good English sources and a lot of Korean coverage, so I don't doubt that this is notable. Earwig says no copyvios, but the article is a bit messy. (Why does the "endless cooking hell" section have nothing in it, for one?) Most importantly, the hook is also little bit vague, and I don't think it would capture much attention. Good day, Wuju Daisuki (Talk? 뭐 그까이꺼 대충!) 17:11, 3 October 2024 (UTC)
- The show was released in three installments and the first season has finished now. The article has been fleshed out to complete details of all the rounds. I'm doing some further clean-up and completion. More anon. Andrew🐉(talk) 13:47, 12 October 2024 (UTC)
- @Wuju Daisuki: The article has been expanded and I've added an ALT hook for your consideration, please. It works well with the picture, I reckon. Andrew🐉(talk) 09:20, 22 October 2024 (UTC)
- @Wuju Daisuki: Have your concerns been resolved? If not, what else needs to be done? Z1720 (talk) 23:14, 29 October 2024 (UTC)
- * @Z1720: The article looks in better shape now, but the alt you provided is not well written, nor would it be very interesting if it was. Good day, Wuju Daisuki (Talk? 뭐 그까이꺼 대충!) 02:22, 30 October 2024 (UTC)
- @Z1720: Thanks to Z1720 for taking an interest. I'm not understanding Wuju Daisuki's objections to the ALT1 hook, which seems fine to me. Maybe we just have different tastes. To help avoid an impasse and establish a consensus, please could Z1720 say what they think of the hooks? Andrew🐉(talk) 10:38, 31 October 2024 (UTC)
- @Andrew Davidson: My opinion is that I am confused by ALT1 because I do not know who Paik Jong-won is. After looking at the image caption and clicking on Jong-won's link I was able to piece together that he is a judge, but it takes too long for me to understand the hook. I like ALT0 more because it is succinct and understandable. If the image is going to be used, it needs to be included in the article. Z1720 (talk) 11:36, 31 October 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks for the feedback. I'm still content with ALT0 too but will mull over ALT1 to see if it can be made clearer. More anon. Andrew🐉(talk) 12:33, 31 October 2024 (UTC)
Hanif Kureshi
- ... that Indian street artist Hanif Kureshi, working pseudonymously as Daku, would use Google Street View images to practice his art before rendering them on the streets? Source: [Livemint]
Ktin (talk) 01:27, 28 September 2024 (UTC).
Articles created/expanded on September 27
[edit]Slop (artificial intelligence)
- ... that slop emerged in 2024 over “pollution”, “garbage” and “dross” as the preferred term to describe low-quality AI-generated material?
- Reviewed: N/a
- Comment: First own DYK nomination. I like this one because a lot of people contributed (images, categorizations). Feels very fresh.
Jenny8lee (talk) 20:39, 4 October 2024 (UTC).
General: Article is new enough and long enough |
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Overall: Welcome to DYK Jenny8lee, I hope you have a wonderful time here, and I hope I can help facilitate your entry the best I can! Created and nominated within a week, long enough, sourced and neutral. QPQ not required because of the nominator being below 5 nominations. I have some questions regarding the hook, since the original article's wording was as such:
"One increasingly intuitive answer is “garbage.” The neuroscientist Erik Hoel has called it “A.I. pollution,” and the physicist Anthony Aguirre “something like noise” and “A.I.-generated dross.”"
It seems like these terms were used by one or two people, rather than being in use beyond those individuals quoted within the article. I believe it might be a good idea to re-word the hook(something along the lines of "AI slop has been referred to as "garbage", "pollution", and "dross"), or find something else altogether. The quotes within the lead of the article should be attributed to their sources as well. In addition, I'm not entirely sure whether the AI generated image is free (regarding the copyright of a derivative work, this is a fairly new policy as well). I'm going to ping @Theleekycauldron: to see what they think regarding the matter. Ornithoptera (talk) 02:34, 12 October 2024 (UTC)
- @Ornithoptera: I think I'd go further than you to say that the Times source doesn't even verify that "slop" is the preeminent term! Since all AI imagery is considered public domain by Commons, public domain derivatives are a-okay. theleekycauldron (talk • she/her) 18:15, 14 October 2024 (UTC)
- @Ornithoptera: Thanks for the feedback. How do I change the hook once it has been submitted? Jenny8lee (talk) 19:24, 20 October 2024 (UTC)
- @Jenny8lee: To propose a new hook, start a new line with ALT1 (in bold) below, then put the text of the hook next to it. Z1720 (talk) 23:15, 29 October 2024 (UTC)
Phoebe Plummer
... that during Phoebe Plummer's May 2024 jury trial over a climate protest, the court finished early on several days due to the heat? Source: https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/article/2024/may/15/uk-climate-activists-convicted-in-first-trial-of-new-anti-protest-lawsALT1: ... that an October 2022 protest involving Just Stop Oil member Phoebe Plummer inspired many activists worldwide to throw food at paintings? Source: https://www.thepinknews.com/2023/11/17/just-stop-oil-phoebe-plummer-prison/- ALT2: ... that when Phoebe Plummer faced trial over the Just Stop Oil Sunflowers protest, they was "unfortunate" to draw Christopher Hehir as judge? Source: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/09/30/just-stop-oil-soup-throwing-protests-moral-toddlerhood/
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Zero-emission zone in Oxford, Template:Did you know nominations/CyberJoly Drim, Template:Did you know nominations/Ajah Pritchard-Lolo
- Comment: Plummer was created 27 September, though I did a 5x expansion on 2 October, added Just Stop Oil Sunflowers protest three days later, and added Christopher Hehir two days after that.
Launchballer 03:13, 2 October 2024 (UTC).
Articles created/expanded on September 28
[edit]Old City of Gaza, Old City of Nablus
- ... that both the Old City of Gaza and the Old City of Nablus have been repeatedly damaged by Israeli invasion and bombardment?
- Source: Awad, Jihad (2017-01-15). "Conserving the Palestinian Architectural Heritage". International Journal of Heritage Architecture: Studies, Repairs and Maintenance. 1 (3): 454. doi:10.2495/ha-v1-n3-451-460. ISSN 2058-833X.
The old city of Nablus has suffered, probably more than any other Palestinian city, from the massive invasion by Israeli forces during the second uprising which started in 2000. Many restoration projects were previously completed by the municipality but unfortunately destroyed by the Israeli bombing of the old city. Many buildings were heavily damaged by Israeli rockets during April 2002. A project was carried out by UNDP and funded by the Japanese government to rebuild the houses. Then in December of 2003, many houses were again damaged during Israeli military activity. This kept recurring: buildings were repaired and then damaged.
Mraffko, Clothilde; Forey, Samuel (2024-02-14). "Israeli bombs are wiping out Gaza's heritage and history". Le Monde.fr. Retrieved 2024-09-29.Whether the Israelis act intentionally or not, "the result is effectively the erasure of a heritage and a history. Symbolically, this is important because this is one of the ways in which people are attached to their territory," warned Benoît Tadié, former cultural adviser to the French consulate general in Jerusalem between 2009 and 2013. He takes as an example the Old City of Gaza, which, like much of the north of the enclave, is now a vast field of ruins. "It wasn't just a site, it was also the heart of today's city. The hammam and the Pacha's Palace were extremely popular places. The museum also served as a place of education for schoolchildren," explained Tadié.
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Abdul Ahad Azad and Template:Did you know nominations/Sun Jianai
Onceinawhile (talk) 09:57, 29 September 2024 (UTC).
- @Onceinawhile: Not a review, but there are massive amounts of unsourced content in both articles and "International Journal of Heritage Architecture: Studies, Repairs and Maintence" is coming up as deprecated/predatory on WP:UPSD. What makes it reliable?--Launchballer 22:24, 29 September 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks Launchballer. All the sources are in the bibliography - let me add in-line citations throughout where they have been missed. I will confirm when done.
- On the Jihad Awad source, I am confident that it is reliable - Professor Awad is
full professor of architecture, currently head of architecture department at Ajman University
, and this paper (a conference submission) is cited in his official University biography page. He subsequently published an article covering a similar topic here. The statement is not difficult to source elsewhere if needed. Onceinawhile (talk) 20:05, 30 September 2024 (UTC)- Fine by me. Full review needed.--Launchballer 03:19, 2 October 2024 (UTC)
WIT Press conferences are scams. That source must absolutely be replaced. Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 00:34, 1 November 2024 (UTC)
Eating Out 2: Sloppy Seconds
- ... that Eating Out 2: Sloppy Seconds focuses on a gay man who pretends to be straight so he can seduce another man?
- Source: Cohen, Neil (November 2, 2006). "Just Desserts - 2004 Out Far! Sensation Eating Out is Back for Seconds". Echo Magazine. Archived from the original on February 24, 2007. Retrieved February 20, 2024.
- ALT1: ... that Eating Out 2: Sloppy Seconds featuring a scene where a character has sex in a portable toilet caused many actors to drop out? Source: Quantic, David (May 29, 2007). "Serving Seconds: The Making of Eating Out 2". Eating Out 2: Sloppy Seconds. Ariztical Entertainment.
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Farnese Artemis
PanagiotisZois (talk) 18:04, 28 September 2024 (UTC).
- Not a review, but ALT0 fails WP:DYKFICTION. ALT1 should be fine on that front.--Launchballer 20:33, 30 September 2024 (UTC)
@Launchballer: Thank you for contributing to the discussion. :) Taking that into account, would ALT0 work as "that Eating Out 2: Sloppy Seconds focusing on a gay man who pretends being straight to seduce another man came from writer-director Phillip J. Bartell's desire to invert the first film's premise?"? I can come up with a few alternatives if needed. PanagiotisZois (talk) 22:16, 30 September 2024 (UTC)
- ALT2 still violates that policy I'm afraid, and I still think ALT1 is more interesting. I would however suggest a slightly shorter version of ALT1 per WP:DYKTRIM, ALT1a: ... that a scene in Eating Out 2: Sloppy Seconds caused many actors to drop out?. Full review needed.--Launchballer 20:43, 1 October 2024 (UTC)
- @Launchballer: I fear that if ALT1 is trimmed, it will end up becoming less interesting. On the one hand, it can be argued that it creates a sense of mystery. As in, "why did many actors drop out?". But on the other hand, the idea that actors dropped out of a role because the character has sex in a portable toilet is definitely unique and will also catch people's attention; I think. PanagiotisZois (talk) 21:42, 1 October 2024 (UTC)
- I can see arguments either way, I'll let a reviewer/promoter decide.--Launchballer 22:10, 1 October 2024 (UTC)
- PanagiotisZois, this is not a review either, but I'm afraid retaining ALT1's bit about sex in a toilet would be borderline "excessively sensational or gratuitous" as per WP:DYKINT; concealing the scene in question through ALT1a should arguably make for an "Intriguing hook that leaves the reader wanting to know more". Nineteen Ninety-Four guy (talk) 16:39, 16 October 2024 (UTC)
- @PanagiotisZois: Please respond to the above. Z1720 (talk) 23:16, 29 October 2024 (UTC)
- I don't think this requires PZ's attention as there is still a valid hook on this page, i.e. ALT1a. This needs a reviewer.--Launchballer 23:20, 29 October 2024 (UTC)
- @PanagiotisZois: Please respond to the above. Z1720 (talk) 23:16, 29 October 2024 (UTC)
- @Launchballer: I fear that if ALT1 is trimmed, it will end up becoming less interesting. On the one hand, it can be argued that it creates a sense of mystery. As in, "why did many actors drop out?". But on the other hand, the idea that actors dropped out of a role because the character has sex in a portable toilet is definitely unique and will also catch people's attention; I think. PanagiotisZois (talk) 21:42, 1 October 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on September 29
[edit]Eddie Sheldrake
- ... that before selling KFC and pies, the 5-foot-9-inch (1.75 m) Eddie Sheldrake played basketball under coach John Wooden and broke UCLA's single-game scoring record?
- Source: "Polly’s Pies will hop back in time this week as the a local comfort food and pie chain ... Her grandfather, Eddie Sheldrake, co-founded the chain with his brother Don with their first restaurant in Fullerton in 1968 after they decided to expand from being Kentucky Fried Chicken franchisees to opening an original restaurant" (Press-Telegram) "This Angeleno is something of an oddity in basketbalL, as it is played these days, for he is a little runt of five feet-nine" (Press-Telegram) "Eddie Sheldrake, a longtime friend of Wooden, was a sophomore in his first year on the Bruins varsity the season the coach arrived." (John Wooden : An American Treasure) "The five-foot nine-inch forward broke the Southern Division basketball scoring record for a single game when he tallied 38 points in leading his team to a 90-67 triumph over Stanford Saturday night. Sheldrake’s total also broke the UCLA school record held Jointly by Don Barksdale and Bill O’Brien, with 30 points." (Citizen-News)
—Bagumba (talk) 16:43, 29 September 2024 (UTC).
Articles created/expanded on September 30
[edit]Wasswa Serwanga
- ... that Wasswa Serwanga and his twin brother were the first two NFL players from Uganda?
- Source: PFR
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Society for Crypto-Judaic Studies
- Comment: Could expand his twin brother's article (Kato Serwanga) to add to the hook if needed. Might also work to have a hook on the aspect of his wealthy father narrowly surviving an attempted murder from Idi Amin and selling his possessions in exchange for a plane ticket to bring Wasswa to the U.S. (not sure how it'd be best worded though...). Also, the QPQ will be done within 24 hours.
BeanieFan11 (talk) 23:15, 7 October 2024 (UTC).
Roger Farmer (American football)
- ... that Roger Farmer was the first NFL player from Barbados?
- Source: PFR
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Celie Ellis Turner
- Comment: QPQ will be done within 24 hours.
BeanieFan11 (talk) 23:08, 7 October 2024 (UTC).
- Starting review. Updates to follow. Ktin (talk) 15:22, 12 October 2024 (UTC)
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Hook eligibility:
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Overall: Article meets eligibility criteria. Recently promoted to GA status. No issues with tone / neutrality nor with plagiarism. Hook is reasonably attractive. Sourced to a NFL record sheet / database. At some point I thought DYK frowned upon hooks like "the first x from y". But, I am not able to find that discussion. Nevertheless, I am happy to mark this hook approved. That said, if the nominator wants to attempt a different hook, I am available for a review. Handing this back to the nominator. QPQ done. Ktin (talk) 15:39, 12 October 2024 (UTC)
- This hook fails the interestingness check in my view. Someone is going to be the first NFL player from Barbados, and so all this is really telling me is that it's a guy named Roger Farmer; there's zero element of surprise. Sdkb talk 04:11, 14 October 2024 (UTC)
- Will see if I can come up with an alt hook tomorrow. BeanieFan11 (talk) 02:18, 17 October 2024 (UTC)
- Could do something like: ALT1 ... that Roger Farmer was among the first two NFL players to come from his high school, to come from his college, and to come from his country? (refs 14/15/16) BeanieFan11 (talk) 02:43, 18 October 2024 (UTC)
- Might be me, but, this is hard to follow as a statement and I personally don't think it is adding to the 'interestingness'. Ktin (talk) 04:39, 18 October 2024 (UTC)
- There have also been several of these "first NFL player from X" hooks proposed lately. Given the recent pushback against "first" hooks, it might be safer to go with a completely different angle here. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 11:16, 22 October 2024 (UTC)
- @Ktin, Narutolovehinata5, and Sdkb: Maybe something like ALT2 ... that Roger Farmer made the NFL despite playing in college for small schools that mainly had "terrible records"? ("he went to Eastern Arizona, which had terrible records both years he was there ... In 1976 ... he came to Baker along with several Arizona recruits from junior colleges ... While Farmer started, Baker had a terrible 1976 record") BeanieFan11 (talk) 01:03, 24 October 2024 (UTC)
- Yup, that works. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 01:24, 24 October 2024 (UTC)
- @BeanieFan11: There are two things that I am not comfortable with -- 1. What is a "small school"? There is no objective agreed definition and I do not think we should send that phrase to the homepage. 2. Though I see your attempt to add terrible records within double quotes, it still comes across as WP:WIKIVOICE and imo that phrase should not go to the homepage. Ktin (talk) 04:22, 27 October 2024 (UTC)
- @Ktin, Narutolovehinata5, and Sdkb: Maybe something like ALT2 ... that Roger Farmer made the NFL despite playing in college for small schools that mainly had "terrible records"? ("he went to Eastern Arizona, which had terrible records both years he was there ... In 1976 ... he came to Baker along with several Arizona recruits from junior colleges ... While Farmer started, Baker had a terrible 1976 record") BeanieFan11 (talk) 01:03, 24 October 2024 (UTC)
- There have also been several of these "first NFL player from X" hooks proposed lately. Given the recent pushback against "first" hooks, it might be safer to go with a completely different angle here. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 11:16, 22 October 2024 (UTC)
- Might be me, but, this is hard to follow as a statement and I personally don't think it is adding to the 'interestingness'. Ktin (talk) 04:39, 18 October 2024 (UTC)
- Could do something like: ALT1 ... that Roger Farmer was among the first two NFL players to come from his high school, to come from his college, and to come from his country? (refs 14/15/16) BeanieFan11 (talk) 02:43, 18 October 2024 (UTC)
- Will see if I can come up with an alt hook tomorrow. BeanieFan11 (talk) 02:18, 17 October 2024 (UTC)
Negussie Roba
- ... that Negussie Roba was an Olympic sprinter who later coached Olympic gold marathon runners?
- Source: Sydney Morning Herald
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/James Davis (escaped convict)
- Comment: Thought it a little interesting that a sprinter (short distance) would become one of the world's best marathon (long distance) coaches.
BeanieFan11 (talk) 23:05, 7 October 2024 (UTC).
- What makes this DYK-worthy? Many former athletes become coaches. (t · c) buidhe 23:53, 20 October 2024 (UTC)
- As said above,
Thought it a little interesting that a sprinter (short distance) would become one of the world's best marathon (long distance) coaches.
– could try to develop an ALT though if that's not interesting enough. BeanieFan11 (talk) 00:09, 21 October 2024 (UTC)- There's no indication in the hook that Rob was a top coach, only that he coached top athletes. (t · c) buidhe 00:11, 21 October 2024 (UTC)
- I thought it was implied by developing Olympic gold medalists – but do you think it would be interesting enough if I clarified that? BeanieFan11 (talk) 00:13, 21 October 2024 (UTC)
- I think it would definitely improve the hook... (t · c) buidhe 14:11, 23 October 2024 (UTC)
- Then ALT1 ... that Negussie Roba was an Olympic sprinter who later became a top marathon coach? BeanieFan11 (talk) 01:23, 24 October 2024 (UTC)
- I think it would definitely improve the hook... (t · c) buidhe 14:11, 23 October 2024 (UTC)
- I thought it was implied by developing Olympic gold medalists – but do you think it would be interesting enough if I clarified that? BeanieFan11 (talk) 00:13, 21 October 2024 (UTC)
- There's no indication in the hook that Rob was a top coach, only that he coached top athletes. (t · c) buidhe 00:11, 21 October 2024 (UTC)
- As said above,
Articles created/expanded on October 1
[edit]Disputes on Wikipedia
- ... that the initial stance taken in disputes on Wikipedia, over deleting an article, can predict the result, due to the "herd effect"?
- Source: Mayfield, Elijah, and Alan W. Black. "Analyzing wikipedia deletion debates with a group decision-making forecast model." Proceedings of the ACM on Human-Computer Interaction 3, no. CSCW (2019): 1-26. See 13-14 "early voters"
- ALT1: ... that the longest "edit war" sequence among disputes on Wikipedia involved 20 editors making 108 reverts of the article on Turkey's first president, Mustafa Kemal Atatürk? Source: Chhabra, Anamika, Rishemjit Kaur, and S. R. S. Iyengar. "Dynamics of edit war sequences in Wikipedia." In Proceedings of the 16th International Symposium on Open Collaboration, pp. 1-10. 2020. see section 4.2 "Longest Edit War Sequence"
- ALT2: ... that editors often line up in rival camps during contentious disputes on Wikipedia and the winning side typically cites encyclopedic policies to favor their biased viewpoint? Source: Morris-O'Connor, Danielle A., Andreas Strotmann, and Dangzhi Zhao. "The colonization of Wikipedia: evidence from characteristic editing behaviors of warring camps." Journal of Documentation 79, no. 3 (2023): 784-810. There are other sources on rival camps.
- ALT3: ... that editors tend to exacerbate disputes on Wikipedia when they greet each during discussions, use 2nd-person pronouns, or take turns speaking? Source: de Kock, Christine; Vlachos, Andreas (April 19–23, 2021). "I Beg to Differ: A study of constructive disagreement in online conversations".
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Genesis (Lebrun)
- Comment: Timing -- I created this early in term for my presentation at Wiki Conf NA, even though I couldn't edit for three days due to religious reasons. So please forgive the late submission. I see various potential hooks, let me know what seems most appealing. Will do a QPQ, I now see that's required.
ProfGray (talk) 18:31, 11 October 2024 (UTC).
Pablo Barragán
- ... that clarinetist Pablo Barragán from Andalusia played the Clarinet Quintet by Johannes Brahms in a 2023 concert with the Schumann Quartet at London's Wigmore Hall? Source: [5]
- Reviewed: He Jianshi
Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:57, 8 October 2024 (UTC).
Articles created/expanded on October 2
[edit]Henri Claireaux
- ... that Henri Claireaux was the first French senator from Saint Pierre and Miquelon?
- Source: [6] ("Mais, plus importante fut l'introduction, pour la première fois, d'une représentation directe au Parlement français ... De 1947 à nos jours, Saint-Pierre et Miquelon a eu trois sénateurs : Henri Claireaux (1947-1968)... [But more important was the introduction, for the first time, of direct representation in the French Parliament ... From 1947 to the present day, Saint-Pierre and Miquelon has had three senators: Henri Claireaux (1947-1968)...]."); see also List of senators of Saint Pierre and Miquelon
ALT1: ... that for 22 years, Henri Claireaux was the only person to have ever represented Saint Pierre and Miquelon in the French Senate? Source: same- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Fred the Head
- Comment: This would be the first DYK bio for Saint Pierre and Miquelon since 2009.
BeanieFan11 (talk) 22:50, 9 October 2024 (UTC).
- Hi BeanieFan11, review follows: article moved to mainspace on 2 October and exceeds minimum length; article is cited inline throughout to what look to be reliable sources; the sources are either in French or paywalled so not much I can check on paraphrasing but Earwig is clear; QPQ has been carried out; I've struck ALT1, although it is supported by the source the overall length of his tenure was just shy of 22 years; on ALT0 the source and article don't say "first French senator from Saint Pierre and Miquelon" but first to represent the place in the Senate. Unlikely I know but it leaves open the possibility that someone from there was elected to the senate as a representative of somewhere else. Perhaps AL2 below works? Happy to consider alternatives. - Dumelow (talk) 17:12, 11 October 2024 (UTC)
- ALT2: ... that Henri Claireaux was the first representative for Saint Pierre and Miquelon elected to the French Senate?
- @Dumelow: I'm fine with ALT2. BeanieFan11 (talk) 23:36, 11 October 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks, I think it technically needs another reviewer to approve - Dumelow (talk) 05:47, 12 October 2024 (UTC)
Criminals (Meghan Trainor song)
- ... that the cast of The Perfect Couple created a WhatsApp group to avoid filming a dance sequence to the theme song?
- Source: NME
- ALT1: ... that Meghan Trainor's song "Criminals" being used as the theme song of The Perfect Couple fulfilled a lifelong dream of hers? Source: Today
- ALT2: ... that Spotify streams of Meghan Trainor's song "Criminals" increased by 1770% following its inclusion in The Perfect Couple, prompting her to add it to the set list of her tour? Source: Deadline
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/The Power of Babel
NØ 20:27, 7 October 2024 (UTC).
- Not a review, but if we go with ALT1, I recommend trimming "being used as the theme song of The Perfect Couple".--Launchballer 16:33, 8 October 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on October 3
[edit]Diaspora Revolt
- ... that a festival commemorating the victory over the Jews in the Diaspora Revolt of 115–117 CE was still being celebrated 80 years later in the Egyptian city of Oxyrhynchus?
- Source: Pucci Ben Zeev, Miriam (2006). "The Uprisings in the Jewish Diaspora, 116–117". In Katz, Steven T. (ed.). The Late Roman-Rabbinic Period. The Cambridge History of Judaism. Vol. 4th. Cambridge University Press. ISBN 978-0-521-77248-8. pp. 96–98. "At Oxyrhynchus, the victory over the Jews was commemorated by a festival that was still observed some eighty years later."
- ALT1: ... that Trajan's suppression of the Diaspora Revolt of 115–117 CE led to the near-total annihilation and displacement of Jewish communities in Cyrenaica, Cyprus, and much of Egypt? Source: Kerkeslager, Allen (2006). "The Jews in Egypt and Cyrenaica, 66–c. 235 CE". In Katz, Steven T. (ed.). The Late Roman-Rabbinic Period. The Cambridge History of Judaism. Vol. 4th. Cambridge University Press. ISBN 978-0-521-77248-8. pp. 61–62. "Trajan was compelled to divert troops under Q. Marcius Turbo from the Parthian front to suppress the uprising. [...] he appears to have charged Turbo with the extermination of all Jews in the affected areas. [...] The campaign of ethnic cleansing appears to have been a devastating success. A gap in the extant evidence for Jews in Cyrenaica confirms that the area was essentially emptied of Jews by their migration into Egypt and the subsequent Gentile massacres of stragglers. Few if any Jews survived anywhere in Cyprus. Papyri and inscriptions testify to the annihilation of entire Jewish communities in many parts of Egypt. Only in remote areas on the fringes of Roman control could any Jews have remained alive in the affected regions."
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Edmond and Lily Safra Center for Brain Sciences
- Comment: The previous nomination was declined two months ago due to missing QPQ. I’m resubmitting now after the article achieved good article status on October 3.
Mariamnei (talk) 05:47, 5 October 2024 (UTC).
Brick by Brick: How Lego Rewrote the Rules of Innovation
- ... that a 2013 book about how the The Lego Group reinvented itself became a popular business text? Source: https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2017/jun/04/how-lego-clicked-the-super-brand-that-reinvented-itself
Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 06:22, 6 October 2024 (UTC).
Light Weight Air Warning Radar
- ... that the Australian Light Weight Air Warning Radar was designed to break down into waterproof containers that fit in the Douglas DC-2, were taken ashore from a trawler in canoes, and in one case manpacked up 200 foot cliffs? Source: Minnett and Briton both detail the waterproof aspect and DC-2, Minnett relates it being brought ashore by canoe and quotes the cliffs
- Reviewed: Sanjna
Maury Markowitz (talk) 13:47, 3 October 2024 (UTC).
Articles created/expanded on October 4
[edit]Maria Muntañola Cvetković
- ... that Maria Muntañola Cvetković was once said to be the only mycologist to be a professor of mycology? Source: Que nosaltres sapiguem, és l’única micòloga que hagi ostentat el títol de professor de Micologia (a Espanya, tots els micòlegs acadèmics som professors de botànica, de microbiologia, de fitopatologia o de dermatologia)./As far as we know, she is the only mycologist who has held the title of professor of Mycology (in Spain, all academic mycologists are professors of botany, microbiology, phytopathology or dermatology).
- ALT1: ... that after fleeing to Argentina as a Spanish Civil War refugee, Maria Muntañola Cvetković became one of Yugoslavia's first microfungi experts? Source: Degut a les condicions cada vegada més precàries durant la Guerra Civil, la seva família es traslladà a Buenos Aires, Argentina ... on Maria Muntañola acabà els seus estudis de Secundària./Due to increasingly precarious conditions during the [Spanish] Civil War, her family moved to Buenos Aires, Argentina ... where Maria Muntañola finished her High School studies.
- ALT2: ... that after being born in Spain and educated in Argentina, Maria Muntañola Cvetković became one of Yugoslavia's first microfungi experts? Source: the doyen of Yugoslav and Serbian mycology, Prof. Dr. Maria Muntañola Cvetković ... born in Barcelona in 1923, and later moved with her family to Argentina ... she was one of the first mycologists in Yugoslavia that studied microfungi
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/June Franklin
- Comment: ALT0 was the toughest one to work with, given that Richard P. Korf was also professor of mycology 1961-1992, but I still found it intriguing enough to have nonetheless.
ミラP@Miraclepine 19:32, 10 October 2024 (UTC).
History Instructing Youth
- ... that the 1896 History Instructing Youth (pictured) is a US one-dollar bill featuring a woman on the obverse and the reverse?
- Source: Source for description of image and source for name of the bill. and Martha Washington’s portrait appeared on the 1886 and 1891 series of one-dollar silver certificates. Her portrait was used again next to her husband, George, on the back of the 1896 one-dollar note. Martha Washington remained the only woman whose image has been featured prominently on U.S. paper currency
- ALT1: ... that History Instructing Youth (pictured) was part of the1896 Educational Series of US paper money and features books on the obverse? Source: source for description of image and source for name of the bill.
- ALT2: ... that the scene on the obverse of the 1896 US one-dollar silver certificate (pictured) is an allegorical depiction of a teacher? Source: source
- ALT3: ... that Martha Washington's portrait on the 1896 US one-dollar silver certificate (pictured) was the last time a woman was featured on US paper money? Source: Martha Washington, the United States's initial first lady, appeared on U.S. $1 silver certificates in 1886, 1891 and 1896. and on the back of the 1896 one-dollar note. Martha Washington remained the only woman whose image has been featured prominently on U.S. paper currency and Martha Washington’s portrait appeared on the 1886 and 1891 series of one-dollar silver certificates. Her portrait was used again next to her husband, George, on the back of the 1896 one-dollar note. Martha Washington remained the only woman whose image has been featured prominently on U.S. paper currency
- ALT4: ... that it took Charles Schlecht more than two years to engrave the plate for the 1896 US one-dollar silver certificate (pictured)? Source: Schlecht began work on the engraving for the obverse in August on 1892 and completed his work on January 1, 1895.
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/University Village (Manhattan)
- Comment: There is also language about this being the most beautiful US paper money but it is subjective and requires attribution. There is also the
Bruxton (talk) 15:29, 9 October 2024 (UTC).
Richard Alan Masters
- ... that Richard Alan Masters' design for a quarter featuring a fruit bat, fueled now-debunked conspiracy theories that the US government was involved in spreading COVID-19?
- Reviewed:
Hyungsubshim (talk) 18:30, 5 October 2024 (UTC).
- You do mean the quarter, right? Not the national park itself. Daniel Case (talk) 02:49, 9 October 2024 (UTC)
- The current hook is far above the 200-character limit and thus cannot be used. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 12:14, 15 October 2024 (UTC)
- @Hyungsubshim: Please suggest alternative hooks that are below the 200 character limit. Z1720 (talk) 23:20, 29 October 2024 (UTC)
- The current hook is far above the 200-character limit and thus cannot be used. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 12:14, 15 October 2024 (UTC)
Leonardo da Vinci (Isaacson book)
- ... that Leonardo DiCaprio was set to star in the film adaptation of Leonardo da Vinci?
―Panamitsu (talk) 03:30, 5 October 2024 (UTC).
Fawzia Amin Sido
- ... that Fawzia Amin Sido, who was abducted during the Yazidi genocide and forced to marry a Palestinian ISIS fighter, was rescued from Gaza in an operation involving the Israeli army, the US and others?
- Reviewed:
Galamore (talk) 09:15, 4 October 2024 (UTC).
- The sources used (VoA & BBC) don't even mention any involvement of Israeli forces except a spokesperson saying: "The Israeli military said Ms Sido was eventually freed during a "complex operation coordinated between Israel, the United States, and other international actors" and taken to Iraq via Israel and Jordan". … Iraqi foreign ministry official Silwan Sinjaree told Reuters that several earlier attempts to rescue her over the course of about four months failed because of the security situation in Gaza.
So according to the sources, Israel was certainly involved and probably partly enabled her escape, but also the security situation in Gaza had actually delayed her rescue.
That this is a remarkably heartbreaking story is not disutable, that she was rescued as a result of Israeli army actions seems pure spin based on these sources.Pincrete (talk) 14:02, 4 October 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on October 5
[edit]Sanewashing
- ... that journalists can avoid sanewashing with the truth sandwich technique?
- Source: Tornoe, Rob (2024-10-01). "The 'sanewashing' phenomenon". Editor and Publisher. Retrieved 2024-10-05.
So, how do you avoid sanewashing Trump or any other politician? The first thing you can do is employ a 'truth sandwich' in your coverage. Developed by author and linguist George Lakoff and promoted by New York University professor and author Jay Rosen, it basically means to surround a lie or misstatement with the truth.
- ALT1: ... that Rob Tornoe wrote in Editor & Publisher that journalists can avoid sanewashing with the truth sandwich technique? Source: Tornoe, Rob (2024-10-01). "The 'sanewashing' phenomenon". Editor and Publisher. Retrieved 2024-10-05.
So, how do you avoid sanewashing Trump or any other politician? The first thing you can do is employ a 'truth sandwich' in your coverage. Developed by author and linguist George Lakoff and promoted by New York University professor and author Jay Rosen, it basically means to surround a lie or misstatement with the truth.
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Chili Williams
Jonathan Deamer (talk) 08:22, 12 October 2024 (UTC).
- 2 bits of jargon readers are unlikely to know is too many for a hook. I would try another one that focuses on sane washing specifically without introducing other terms. (t · c) buidhe 23:57, 20 October 2024 (UTC)
- ALT2: ... that Will Bunch, columnist at The Philadelphia Inquirer, believes sanewashing "has all but clinched Merriam-Webster's Word of the Year for 2024"? The Philadelphia Inquirer: "I think sanewashing has all but clinched Merriam-Webster’s Word of the Year for 2024 — not just for its cleverness, but because finding the right language may be having a positive impact on our politics and our future."
- ALT3: ... that according to Urban Dictionary, the word sanewashing was coined in a Reddit forum for neoliberals in 2020? Columbia Journalism Review: "The term itself actually isn’t new, and it wasn’t born in media-criticism circles, per se; according to Urban Dictionary, it was coined in 2020 on a Reddit page for neoliberals (which Linda Kinstler wrote about recently for CJR), and meant “attempting to downplay a person or idea’s radicality to make it more palatable to the general public."
- @buidhe Thanks for the feedback! Fair point. I've added two alternatives above. I'm trying to keep it about language/journalism rather than go into an (even more) political territory for DYK purposes. Jonathan Deamer (talk) 17:26, 22 October 2024 (UTC)
- ALT2 doesn't seem like a hook unless it happens, the etymology mentioned in ALT3 is not particularly noteworthy for 21st century neologisms. I feel like you should have some good material in the article, maybe a hook focusing on a particular alleged instance or in relation to the main political figure to which it's applied (i.e. trump) would be better. (t · c) buidhe 14:10, 23 October 2024 (UTC)
- @buidhe I hear you on "focusing on a particular alleged instance or in relation to the main political figure to which it's applied". Here are a couple of different spins on a similar idea:
- @buidhe Thanks for the feedback! Fair point. I've added two alternatives above. I'm trying to keep it about language/journalism rather than go into an (even more) political territory for DYK purposes. Jonathan Deamer (talk) 17:26, 22 October 2024 (UTC)
- ALT4: ... that both Tim Walz and JD Vance were accused of sanewashing in the 2024 vice presidential debate? MSNBC:
On Tuesday, Vance took that same "sanewashing" approach to the debate stage in New York. When pressed by the moderators about Trump calling climate change a "hoax," for example, Vance deflected. Instead of answering yes or no, Vance tried to "interpret" for Trump.
The Hill:The term 'sanewashing' is going around among liberal media critics, the idea that the media is too willing to normalize [former President] Trump and Vance's behavior," Silver said in a Substack post Wednesday. "Wasn't Walz sanewashing Vance? He said nothing about the Republican ticket's conspiratorial claims about Haitian immigrants eating pets, for instance.
- ALT5: ... that Nate Silver suggested Tim Walz was sanewashing by not mentioning Donald Trump's "conspiratorial claims about Haitian immigrants eating pets" in the 2024 vice presidential debate? The Hill:
The term 'sanewashing' is going around among liberal media critics, the idea that the media is too willing to normalize [former President] Trump and Vance's behavior," Silver said in a Substack post Wednesday. "Wasn't Walz sanewashing Vance? He said nothing about the Republican ticket's conspiratorial claims about Haitian immigrants eating pets, for instance.
- ALT4: ... that both Tim Walz and JD Vance were accused of sanewashing in the 2024 vice presidential debate? MSNBC:
Neknampur Lake
- ... that Neknampur Lake restoration "has been recognised as a role model in the 'watershed development' category along with four other projects" in India?
- ALT1: ... that the restoration of Neknampur Lake was recognised "as the best model of lake restoration in India"? Source: * [5] [6] [7]
- Reviewed:
Sarvagyana guru (talk) 06:05, 7 October 2024 (UTC).
- Article seems good enough for DYK (all content referenced, hook is neutral enough - citing attributed praise), copyvio spotcheck at 20% seems good (green), long enough, new enough. QPQ is needed, please ping me when it is done. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 04:11, 24 October 2024 (UTC)
@Piotrus:
I think I had reviewed three nominations (as per best of my understanding). These are
- Template:Did_you_know_nominations/Sankar_Montoute
- Template:Did you know nominations/Hugh O'Neill, Earl of Tyrone
- Template:Did you know nominations/It's OK I'm OK
Note to Sarvagyana guru and Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus: the QPQ reviews provided do not appear to be complete DYK reviews, covering all the basic DYK criteria such as newness, length, neutrality, free of copyvio, hook cited and interesting, and so on. In particular, Sankar Montoute and It's OK I'm OK only discuss the hook, and Hugh O'Neill, Earl of Tyrone only mentions length and "well-sourced" in its approval, which is not adequate. I have also adjusted both hooks to change the italics into quote marks; I also discovered that the article failed to properly identify the actual quotes for those hooks, which is technically a copyvio, so I have adjusted it accordingly. This meant adjusting the quotes to cover more material. (In once case, two apostrophes together were used in the article rather than the double-quote character, causing italics there rather than visible " marks at the beginning and end of the quote.) Piotrus, I think a more careful review of the quoted material is in order, given what I just found. Thank you. BlueMoonset (talk) 14:44, 30 October 2024 (UTC)
- @BlueMoonset: I see, thank you. I confirmed before and double checked now that the quoted terms for the hook(s), i.e. 'watershed development' and 'best model' appear in sourced cited, so the article seems fine, once the QPQ reviews are done (well, a single one will suffice to pass this, but it would be good to fix the others, which @Sarvagyana guru: can then use as fuel for two more DYKs :) PS. Sarvagyana guru, please WP:PING me when you reply here to me, otherwise I may not see your message. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 01:10, 31 October 2024 (UTC)
References
- ^ "Neknampur Lake Restoration Gets NITI Aayog Recognition".
- ^ "Rejuvenated Neknampur lake wins Niti Aayog laurels".
- ^ "Neknampur lake gets Niti Aayog's recognition".
- ^ "Once a dumpyard, this Hyderabad lake is now a hub for eco-friendly events".
- ^ "Neknampur lake: Private entity's sustainable restoration earns recognition from CSE".
- ^ "Neknampur lake garners accolades for restoration".
- ^ "Restoration of Neknampur Lake receives praise".
Jurong East MRT station
- ... that it was proposed for the Jurong East MRT station in Singapore to have a recurring disco to increase its vibrancy?
- Reviewed:
- Comment: Add wikilinks for 'Jurong East MRT station'
Imbluey2 . Please ping me so that I get notified of your response 14:17, 5 October 2024 (UTC).
- Claiming this for review and hope to get to this within the next few days. For what it's worth I like the hook and think it's interesting. I've made some copyedits to the hook such as linking and bolding. Given that the nominator is Imbluey2 and not ZKang123, no QPQ is necessary. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 00:43, 6 October 2024 (UTC)
- The article was promoted to GA status on time and I didn't find any close paraphrasing (the 34.6% figure Earwig gives is a false positive). No QPQ is needed for Imbluey2 as nominator (had ZKang123 done the nom, a QPQ would have been required). The hook is interesting and cited inline. My only concern is a minor one: the article/hook and the source do not fully agree. The article says that Yao proposed discos, but the newspaper source said a disco. That may need to be clarified. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 11:54, 7 October 2024 (UTC)
- The newspaper said a reoccurring disco in the station. It should be added to the hook as "it was proposed for the Jurong East MRT station in Singapore to host a reoccurring disco party to increase its vibrancy?". Maybe modify the "reoccuring" part since it doesn't really flow well imo. Imbluey2. Please ping me so that I get notified of your response 13:49, 7 October 2024 (UTC)
- The article was promoted to GA status on time and I didn't find any close paraphrasing (the 34.6% figure Earwig gives is a false positive). No QPQ is needed for Imbluey2 as nominator (had ZKang123 done the nom, a QPQ would have been required). The hook is interesting and cited inline. My only concern is a minor one: the article/hook and the source do not fully agree. The article says that Yao proposed discos, but the newspaper source said a disco. That may need to be clarified. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 11:54, 7 October 2024 (UTC)
- Hello @Narutolovehinata5? Can we continue with the DYK nomination? Imbluey2. Please ping me so that I get notified of your response 23:56, 10 October 2024 (UTC)
- I'm still waiting for the discrepancy to be resolved. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 02:00, 11 October 2024 (UTC)
- @Narutolovehinata5 fixed the DYK hook to "a recurring disco" since the newspaper source said that it was proposed for people to host a disco. Yeo's quote of justifying his proposal implied that the disco would recurring ("maybe in the evenings", evenings in this context implies reccurance imo). Imbluey2. Please ping me so that I get notified of your response 10:49, 13 October 2024 (UTC)
- I don't know. The source doesn't outright say "recurring", and while one could argue that the meaning is implied, the lack of a direct support from the source probably makes that specific wording unsafe. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 11:19, 22 October 2024 (UTC)
- @Narutolovehinata5 fixed the DYK hook to "a recurring disco" since the newspaper source said that it was proposed for people to host a disco. Yeo's quote of justifying his proposal implied that the disco would recurring ("maybe in the evenings", evenings in this context implies reccurance imo). Imbluey2. Please ping me so that I get notified of your response 10:49, 13 October 2024 (UTC)
- I'm still waiting for the discrepancy to be resolved. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 02:00, 11 October 2024 (UTC)
- Hello @Narutolovehinata5? Can we continue with the DYK nomination? Imbluey2. Please ping me so that I get notified of your response 23:56, 10 October 2024 (UTC)
- Just to follow-up, the article and hook still need to match the source before this can be approved. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 12:25, 30 October 2024 (UTC) Note: I did not promote it to GA status, it was ZKang123. I just did some minor edits including the disco one.
Articles created/expanded on October 6
[edit]Middle East International
- ... that in 1970 Sheikh Zayed, of the United Arab Emirates, gave £40,000 to Margaret McKay MP, to fund a "pro-Arab" PR campaign, and gave Christopher Mayhew MP £50,000 to start a bimonthly magazine, Middle East International?
- Source: https://www.jstor.org/stable/23604055?read-now=1&seq=21 Lionel Kochan p.214 requires registering to read
- Reviewed:
Padres Hana (talk) 15:50, 9 October 2024 (UTC).
- The current hook is not suitable as it is far above DYK's 200-character limit. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 12:26, 30 October 2024 (UTC)
ZIZ
- ... that a 1962 calypso song commemorated the relaunch of Saint Kitts and Nevis radio station ZIZ?
- Source: Daniel, Morven I. Alecia (2001-04-12). American Neocolonialism? The Impact of United States Cable Television on the Culture of St. Kitts (Thesis). Carleton University/National Library of Canada. pp. 71–72. ISBN 0-612-61320-8. Retrieved 2024-10-08 – via Library and Archives Canada.
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Typhoon Virginia (1957)
- Comment: It all started last weekend when I Googled up "Caribbean broadcasting call signs" while browsing results for various regional TV stations on a whim. A GBooks result offered a tidbit on an entity called VP2LO, a shortwave outlet that in the years ahead evolved into the Kittitian national broadcaster--a topic I broke ground on back in my early days on WP. (I was lucky to save it from A7 during its December 2007 launch--barely.) Face it, WP is still in dire need of better and more extensive coverage on Caribbean media.
- Apologies if I used a thesis here, but regrettably, it's the only source mentioning this factoid--anywhere--as far as Google's aware (WP:AGF). Meanwhile, as I type, Doc Taxon at WP:RX has been taking care of the last three bits we need to get this finished.
- First of two DYK candidates of mine before Milton approaches my home area; see you in another couple of hours with the next one.
- P.S. Wonder if there are any established editors from Saint Kitts and Nevis itself? (I myself hail from Dominica.)
- P.P.S. As always, special greetings to Barbados' CaribDigita (talk · contribs) and Trinidad's Guettarda (talk · contribs)--along with SafariScribe (talk · contribs), who approved one of my recent go-rounds at AFC, The Right and the Wrong.
Slgrandson (How's my egg-throwing coleslaw?) 23:52, 8 October 2024 (UTC).
Articles created/expanded on October 7
[edit]The Children's Book of Virtues
- ... that two U.S. best-seller lists initially classified The Children's Book of Virtues as nonfiction, but later moved it to their fiction charts?
- Source: "Book Notes: Fiction, Nonfiction or Both?". The New York Times. 1995-11-08. p. C.17. Retrieved 2024-10-08 – via ProQuest.
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/E-Defense
- Comment: One of two follow-ups to my expansion campaign for fellow DYK stalwart The Book of Virtues, the other being The Moral Compass. My final candidate in this arena before Milton's impact where I live; wish me safety, take care, and I'll see you back. (With special thanks to this selection's AFC approver,
Sir MemeGod (talk · contribs)Bkissin (talk · contribs).)
Slgrandson (How's my egg-throwing coleslaw?) 03:16, 9 October 2024 (UTC).
- I was wondering why I got pinged to a random DYK, now I know! :D SirMemeGod 12:20, 9 October 2024 (UTC)
- @Sir MemeGod: Sorry, I mixed up my reviewers days ago; see above for correction. (You actually approved Children's, while Bkissin approved Compass.) --Slgrandson (How's my egg-throwing coleslaw?) 20:24, 14 October 2024 (UTC)
- I was wondering why I got pinged to a random DYK, now I know! :D SirMemeGod 12:20, 9 October 2024 (UTC)
Texas and Pacific 610
- ... that after the Texas and Pacific 610 locomotive was retired from service in 1950, it was donated to Fort Worth, Texas, publisher Amon G. Carter and became named after philosopher Will Rogers?
- Source: Heinecke, Harry (January 28, 1951). "City, Show and T&P Officials Help 'Bed Down' Old 610 in Its Last Stall". Fort Worth Star-Telegram. Vol. 17, no. 362. p. 1 – via Newspapers.com.
- "T&P Steam Locomotive, Gift to City Will Keep Iron Horse Memories Alive". Fort Worth Star-Telegram. Vol. 17, no. 353. January 19, 1951. p. 1 – via Newspapers.com.
- Reviewed:
- Comment: I honestly only want to know what earning the DYK nomination is like, after successfully nominating two pages the Good Article grade. I just wasn’t sure which fact is the most interesting in No. 610’s page.
Someone who likes train writing (talk) 20:50, 7 October 2024 (UTC).
- Comment I think this would be a better hook:
- ...that after being bought for $1 to save it from scrapping, Texas and Pacific 610 was one of three steam locomotives to pull the 1976 American Freedom Train commemorating the United States Bicentennial?
- I'm not certain which sources in the article support this, but I'm sure you can provide them, @Someone who likes train writing:. Trainsandotherthings (talk) 21:07, 11 October 2024 (UTC)
- Comment That actually sounds better. Thank you, @Trainsandotherthings:. Here are a couple of sources that back this fact up.:
- Marrs, Jim (February 25, 1976). "Hundreds Due to Greet Engine 610". Fort Worth Star-Telegram. p. 4 – via Newspapers.com.
- Boyd, Jim (February 1978). "Tales of a lanky Texan". Railfan. Vol. 2, no. 2. Carstens Publications. p. 31.
LaTasha Barnes
- ... that one of the most popular places to learn swing dance and lindy hop is in Malmo, Sweden?
- Reviewed:
Wroliver (talk) 18:17, 7 October 2024 (UTC).
- Hi Wroliver, the article says onyl that the "Herrang Dance Camp is one of the most popular places in Europe to learn swing dance and Lindy Hop" and is sourced to its Wikipedia article. This wouldn't be acceptable and would need an independent source. Additionally it doesn't seem to have much to do with the subject of the article LaTasha Barnes, a hook focussing on her would be preferred. Finally, the article has been tagged for promotional tone and unclear citations that needs resolving before it can be posted - Dumelow (talk) 09:38, 8 October 2024 (UTC)
- Hi Wroliver, just a reminder on this. If I don't hear back in the next couple of days I will close the nomination as unsuccessful. All the best - Dumelow (talk) 21:18, 22 October 2024 (UTC)
- I'd propose ALT1: ...that jazz dancer LaTasha Barnes began her career as a sergeant in the U.S. Army? Sdkb talk 05:29, 23 October 2024 (UTC)
- Marking for closure as article continues to have significant citation issues. It has also been tagged for promotional content - Dumelow (talk) 08:40, 28 October 2024 (UTC)
- Wroliver has requested to keep this open for another day or so. There is significant work to be done here to address the tags on the article though - Dumelow (talk) 22:56, 28 October 2024 (UTC)
- Marking for closure as article continues to have significant citation issues. It has also been tagged for promotional content - Dumelow (talk) 08:40, 28 October 2024 (UTC)
- I'd propose ALT1: ...that jazz dancer LaTasha Barnes began her career as a sergeant in the U.S. Army? Sdkb talk 05:29, 23 October 2024 (UTC)
- Hi Wroliver, just a reminder on this. If I don't hear back in the next couple of days I will close the nomination as unsuccessful. All the best - Dumelow (talk) 21:18, 22 October 2024 (UTC)
Alt DYK proposed for LaTasha Barnes article: DYK that dancer/choreographer LaTasha Barnes began her career as a sergeant in the U.S. Army? [1]
Note: I have made some revisions to the article to address concerns mentioned, including removing the Wikipedia reference and replacing it with a better reference. I've attempted to keep a neutral tone throughout, and changed some of the language for that purpose. Please let me know if any other changes are needed.Wroliver (talk) 21:31, 29 October 2024 (UTC) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LaTasha_Barnes
- Hi Wroliver, thanks for getting back to me. I have been through "Early years" and "Performing career" and noted a few bits that are not supported by the sources cited. Can you look to resolve these and any other similar parts of the article before I continue the review - Dumelow (talk) 10:43, 30 October 2024 (UTC)
- I've also tagged a sentence copied verbatim from the cited source. Please address this and also any other similar instances, we cannot violate copyright in this way - Dumelow (talk) 10:49, 30 October 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on October 8
[edit]Diane Leather
- ... that Diane Leather was the first woman to run a mile in under five minutes?
Oldelpaso (talk) 22:24, 14 October 2024 (UTC).
- Can we do better than this? If any woman has run the mile in under 5 minutes, someone had to be the first, and the hook doesn't provide any more information. (t · c) buidhe 23:51, 20 October 2024 (UTC)
- Are you saying a world record isn't notable and/or hook worthy? Or are you asking for more context such as a link to Mile run world record progression? I was trying to keep the hook as succinct as possible. Oldelpaso (talk) 02:01, 22 October 2024 (UTC)
- Another issue is that the hook proposed is a "first" hook, which per WP:DYKHOOK usually needs exceptionally strong sourcing given the exceptional claim involved (how are we sure that no other woman before Leather ran a mile in under five minutes?) Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 11:21, 22 October 2024 (UTC)
- The article includes cites describing her in those terms from the World Athletics website (the organisation that ratifies world records in the discipline, formerly known as the IAAF)[7], the BBC [8], Guardian [9], NYT [10], Washington Post [11] and others. Oldelpaso (talk) 21:37, 22 October 2024 (UTC)
- I could work in some reference to Roger Bannister in the hook, as his far more well-known first sub-four minute mile occurred the same month and thus they are frequently compared, but I'd rather not. It was how overlooked Leather's achievement was compared to the male equivalent that prompted me to expand the article in the first place! Oldelpaso (talk) 21:55, 22 October 2024 (UTC)
- Another issue is that the hook proposed is a "first" hook, which per WP:DYKHOOK usually needs exceptionally strong sourcing given the exceptional claim involved (how are we sure that no other woman before Leather ran a mile in under five minutes?) Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 11:21, 22 October 2024 (UTC)
- Are you saying a world record isn't notable and/or hook worthy? Or are you asking for more context such as a link to Mile run world record progression? I was trying to keep the hook as succinct as possible. Oldelpaso (talk) 02:01, 22 October 2024 (UTC)
Amaury du Closel
- ... that conductor and composer Amaury du Closel (pictured) founded the Forum Voix Etouffées to revive the music of composers whose voices were silenced by totalitarian regimes of the 20th century? Source: [12]
- Reviewed: Methuselah (lungfish)
- Comment: On the Main page RD but without blurb, so still eligible
Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:44, 14 October 2024 (UTC).
- The article was new enough and long enough at the time of the nomination. I didn't find any close paraphrasing. A QPQ has been fully completed. As the article was only featured on RD rather than as a blurb, it is still eligible for DYK. The image is properly licensed and is suitable at its resolution.
- The hook doesn't meet WP:DYKCITE at this time as the footnote supporting it comes later in the paragraph than it should. The hook is referenced to a French source so AGF, although a Google Translate translation seems to verify the information. Apart from the sourcing, my only real concern (since the hook is interesting) is the language in both the hook and the article might not meet the guidelines on words to avoid in articles, specifically WP:PEACOCK since they're arguably more flowery. Rather than using "silenced", or the lead section's current wording, perhaps it may be toned down a little more to suit the guidelines. The nomination will be approved once those wording and citing issues are addressed. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 14:20, 22 October 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you for reviewing. I duplicated the references to a sentence earlier. I tried to translate the name of the organization and his book: "Erstickte Stimmen", which was originally in German. I understand that "erstickt" means "suffocated" and believe that "silenced" is almost too harmless compared to that. Other options from my translator are "suppressed" and "stifled", the latter being a word I never heard before and therefore hesitate to use. If you say it is better, I'll believe you. Or what would you suggest? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:41, 22 October 2024 (UTC)
- The current hook is also really long, at 183 characters, so it might be a good idea to shorten it a bit. If that can be done while making the hook/article meet WTW, that might help. Perhaps Launchballer or CurryTime7-24 can propose such revisions to ALT0? Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 15:44, 22 October 2024 (UTC)
- Knowing Gerda's strong feelings on DYK hooks, I'm not sure I can be of help here. However, I do agree that this hook is a mouthful and would benefit from a trim. Also, the phrase "whose voices were silenced" ought to be modified per WP:SUBJECTIVE, MOS:EUPHEMISM, and possibly MOS:CLICHE. It would be clearer to say "to revive the music of composers suppressed by totalitarian regimes". —CurryTime7-24 (talk) 19:51, 23 October 2024 (UTC)
- CurryTime7-24, did you read (just above) that I tried to translate the name of the organization in a more elegant way than putting it in brackets? I believe that you could help with that. Voix Etouffées, Erstickte Stimmen, what is it best in English? It's their program. I would seriously like to find out even if we don't use it for the hook. - In an earlier hook, we said "music banned by the Nazis" which is of course shorter but too narrow. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:02, 23 October 2024 (UTC)
- It seems to be officially known by its French name, so I'd stick with that. Sometimes organizations are internationally known by their native name (e.g. Gesellschaft der Musikfreunde). For what it's worth, "etouffée" translates to "stifled", "smothered", or "muffled". —CurryTime7-24 (talk) 20:22, 23 October 2024 (UTC)
- I am sorry that I was not precise: of course I didn't want to replace the French name of the organization, but translate it for those who don't know French. All three words are new to me, so I can't tell what would be best. Or give up the idea? Then what would you suggest? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:42, 23 October 2024 (UTC)
- Trying without "voices":
- ALT0a ... that conductor and composer Amaury du Closel (pictured) founded the Forum Voix Etouffées to revive music that was suppressed by totalitarian regimes of the 20th century?
- Trying simple translation:
- ALT0b ... that conductor and composer Amaury du Closel (pictured) founded the Forum Voix Etouffées (Stifled voices) to revive music suppressed by totalitarian regimes of the 20th century? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:49, 23 October 2024 (UTC)
- Didn't grasp what you were telling me at first; I'm sorry for my pedantic reply. :) Although these are not literal translations, I think "suppressed", "persecuted", or even "oppressed" better convey the intended spirit of "etouffée" in the context of the organization name. Both ALT0a and ALT0b seem great to me! —CurryTime7-24 (talk) 22:06, 23 October 2024 (UTC)
- I like ALT0a. As long as the wordings in the article are also fixed we should be good to go with it. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 01:25, 24 October 2024 (UTC)
- In the hook, we have no space. In the article, I replaced a duplicate "persecuted" in the lead by "suppressed", but in the prose used "voices stifled" (in quotation marks) to make the connection to the name. It appeared there only for the Nazi regime. If you have better ideas please try. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:25, 24 October 2024 (UTC)
- @CurryTime7-24: Are you okay with the way "voices stifled" is used in the article, or do you think it should be rephrased? Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 13:43, 25 October 2024 (UTC)
- In the hook, we have no space. In the article, I replaced a duplicate "persecuted" in the lead by "suppressed", but in the prose used "voices stifled" (in quotation marks) to make the connection to the name. It appeared there only for the Nazi regime. If you have better ideas please try. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:25, 24 October 2024 (UTC)
- I like ALT0a. As long as the wordings in the article are also fixed we should be good to go with it. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 01:25, 24 October 2024 (UTC)
- Didn't grasp what you were telling me at first; I'm sorry for my pedantic reply. :) Although these are not literal translations, I think "suppressed", "persecuted", or even "oppressed" better convey the intended spirit of "etouffée" in the context of the organization name. Both ALT0a and ALT0b seem great to me! —CurryTime7-24 (talk) 22:06, 23 October 2024 (UTC)
- It seems to be officially known by its French name, so I'd stick with that. Sometimes organizations are internationally known by their native name (e.g. Gesellschaft der Musikfreunde). For what it's worth, "etouffée" translates to "stifled", "smothered", or "muffled". —CurryTime7-24 (talk) 20:22, 23 October 2024 (UTC)
- CurryTime7-24, did you read (just above) that I tried to translate the name of the organization in a more elegant way than putting it in brackets? I believe that you could help with that. Voix Etouffées, Erstickte Stimmen, what is it best in English? It's their program. I would seriously like to find out even if we don't use it for the hook. - In an earlier hook, we said "music banned by the Nazis" which is of course shorter but too narrow. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:02, 23 October 2024 (UTC)
- Knowing Gerda's strong feelings on DYK hooks, I'm not sure I can be of help here. However, I do agree that this hook is a mouthful and would benefit from a trim. Also, the phrase "whose voices were silenced" ought to be modified per WP:SUBJECTIVE, MOS:EUPHEMISM, and possibly MOS:CLICHE. It would be clearer to say "to revive the music of composers suppressed by totalitarian regimes". —CurryTime7-24 (talk) 19:51, 23 October 2024 (UTC)
- The current hook is also really long, at 183 characters, so it might be a good idea to shorten it a bit. If that can be done while making the hook/article meet WTW, that might help. Perhaps Launchballer or CurryTime7-24 can propose such revisions to ALT0? Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 15:44, 22 October 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you for reviewing. I duplicated the references to a sentence earlier. I tried to translate the name of the organization and his book: "Erstickte Stimmen", which was originally in German. I understand that "erstickt" means "suffocated" and believe that "silenced" is almost too harmless compared to that. Other options from my translator are "suppressed" and "stifled", the latter being a word I never heard before and therefore hesitate to use. If you say it is better, I'll believe you. Or what would you suggest? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:41, 22 October 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on October 9
[edit]Musa al-Gharbi
- ... that Musa al-Gharbi has argued since the 2016 election of Donald Trump that media outlets including The New York Times opinion page and MSNBC have failed to understand his supporters?
- Source: "For the past four years, Al-Gharbi tried to tell anyone who would listen that Trump supporters did not in fact fit the sociological profile offered on The New York Times opinion page or on MSNBC’s nightly pearl-clutching roundtables." Tablet
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/School lunch in Japan
- Comment: A bit late of a nomination. Thank you Oganguly for your help! I would like this to run on 6 November, the day after the US Presidential election.
Thriley (talk) 07:16, 18 October 2024 (UTC).
Church of the East in Sichuan
- ... that the ruins of the East Syriac church Pearl Temple are the subject of Du Fu's poem "The Stone Shoots: A Ballad"?
- Source: Duan, Yuming (1993). "云南景教考" [A Study on East Syriac Christianity in Yunnan]. Journal of Yunnan Nationalities University (Social Sciences Edition). p. 59; Enoki, Kazuo (1947). "成都の石筍と大秦寺" [Bamboo-shoot-like Menhir in Chêng-tu and Nestorian Church]. Journal of the Research Department of the Toyo Bunko. pp. 108–109.
- Reviewed:
Uriel1022 (talk) 13:54, 15 October 2024 (UTC).
MrBeast Lab
- ... that the MrBeast Lab toy line first debuted in a pop-up store in the shape of an overturned tanker truck carrying toxic waste?
Johnson524 17:08, 12 October 2024 (UTC).
Manga and anime fandom in Poland
- ... that one of the oldest European manga and anime fandoms is located in Poland, dating to the mid-90s? Source: Reczulski (2023, pp. 117–118, 266) - book is in Polish, but open access as a pdf so a dedicated reader can translate it via machine translation, if you don't want to just AGF
Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 06:57, 10 October 2024 (UTC).
Scary Monsters and Nice Sprites (song)
- ... that "Scary Monsters and Nice Sprites" is a mosquito repellent?
- Source: "Dubstep artist Skrillex could protect against mosquito bites". BBC. 1 April 2019. Archived from the original on 18 July 2023. Retrieved 1 April 2019.
- ALT1: ... that "Scary Monsters and Nice Sprites" protects against dengue fever? Source: "Dubstep artist Skrillex could protect against mosquito bites". BBC. 1 April 2019. Archived from the original on 18 July 2023. Retrieved 1 April 2019.
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Get the Hell Out
- Comment: My attempts at quirky hooks.
Skyshiftertalk 14:13, 9 October 2024 (UTC).
- Might I suggest ALT2:
- ... that mosquitoes are scared by Scary Monsters and Nice Sprites? Di (they-them) (talk) 02:08, 10 October 2024 (UTC)
- @Di (they-them): this is a very good one that I support! Skyshiftertalk 03:03, 10 October 2024 (UTC)
- ... that mosquitoes are scared by Scary Monsters and Nice Sprites? Di (they-them) (talk) 02:08, 10 October 2024 (UTC)
- @Skyshifter: Please provide a QPQ as the nomination is liable to be closed without further warning if one isn't provided during or immediately after the nomination. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 02:58, 10 October 2024 (UTC)
- @Narutolovehinata5: I thought one could be provided in a week. In that case, I will provide it in a day maximum. Skyshiftertalk 03:03, 10 October 2024 (UTC)
- @Skyshifter: The rules recently changed per a WT:DYK discussion as part of an anti-backlog campaign and to prevent QPQ-less nominations from languishing without a QPQ indefinitely. Now, a QPQ must be given when or shortly after the nomination is created, and a nomination without a QPQ may be closed without warning if none is provided immediately. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 03:15, 10 October 2024 (UTC)
- @Narutolovehinata5: I thought one could be provided in a week. In that case, I will provide it in a day maximum. Skyshiftertalk 03:03, 10 October 2024 (UTC)
- @Skyshifter: Please provide a QPQ as the nomination is liable to be closed without further warning if one isn't provided during or immediately after the nomination. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 02:58, 10 October 2024 (UTC)
- I want to ask that if/when this hook is approved, it be set for October 31 to go with the Halloween set (Wikipedia talk:Did you know#Halloween set). Di (they-them) (talk) 03:23, 10 October 2024 (UTC)
- @Di (they-them): I support this! Skyshiftertalk 01:37, 11 October 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on October 10
[edit]Florentina Holzinger
- ... that Florentina Holzinger's work includes nude all-female casts, live sex, self-mutilation, dildo use, defecation, coprophagia and live piercing, leading to severe nausea for some theatregoers?
- Source: "Eighteen theatregoers at Stuttgart’s state opera required medical treatment for severe nausea over the weekend after watching a performance that included live piercing, unsimulated sexual intercourse and copious amounts of fake and real blood." The Guardian etc
Edwardx (talk) 19:45, 17 October 2024 (UTC).
- This is not a review, but the hook seems sensational to me. Could either of you provide some alternatives? Nineteen Ninety-Four guy (talk) 05:39, 30 October 2024 (UTC)
Santa Maria Maggiore, Venice
- ... that , since it was deconsecrated, the Church of Santa Maria Maggiore in Santa Croce, Venice, has been used as a stable and a tobacco warehouse and that its grounds now house a prison? Source: http://www.veneziamuseo.it/TERRA/Santa_Croce/Crose/crose_cie_mazor.htm https://cultura.gov.it/luogo/chiesa-di-santa-maria-maggiore-di-venezia https://www.invenicetoday.com/%5C/tour/chiese/Santa-Croce/Chiesa-di-Santa-Maria-Maggiore.htm https://storico.beniculturali.it/mibac/opencms/MiBAC/sito-MiBAC/Luogo/MibacUnif/Luoghi-della-Cultura/visualizza_asset.html?id=153604&pagename=57
Bogger (talk) 08:13, 15 October 2024 (UTC).
Last Call BBS
- ... that Zachtronics' final game, Last Call BBS, contains elements of all of their previous?
- Source: https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/last-call-bbs-is-a-tour-through-a-decade-of-zachtronics-indie-development ("The collection isn't just a bunch of throwbacks to the studio’s stellar puzzle design though. They also evoke what it feels like to play a Zach-like.")
- ALT1: ... that Last Call BBS contains a chip-manufacturing game, a model building simulator, a game of Solitaire, and more? Source: https://hardcoregamer.com/news/the-final-zachtronics-with-last-call-bbs-early-access-release/424600/ ("There's always solitaire on the desktop to keep you busy ... circuit creation, and even a Gundam-style model creator.")
- Reviewed:
'''[[User:CanonNi]]''' (talk • contribs) 08:32, 10 October 2024 (UTC).
Articles created/expanded on October 11
[edit]Salmon n' Bannock
- ... that Salmon n' Bannock's notoriety led to the owner reconnecting with her long-lost family?
- Source: "But for Cook, Salmon n' Bannock is about more than just great food. This is the place that reunited her with the family she never knew." "Indigenous cuisine reconnected a Sixties Scoop survivor with family, community and culture". CBC Radio. Canadian Broadcasting Corporation. 6 October 2017. Retrieved 11 October 2024.
- ALT1: ... that actress Jane Fonda "went crazy" for Salmon n' Bannock's smoked oolichan? Source: The First Nations food “was a first for me,” Fonda wrote on her website, “and the food, all Indigenous recipes, fresh and local, was delicious.” Owner Inez Cook recalls, “she went crazy for the smoked oolichan.” Stainsby, Mia (9 May 2018). "Restaurant review: First Nations food shines at Salmon n' Bannock". Vancouver Sun. Retrieved 10 October 2024.
- ALT2: ... that Vancouver restaurant Salmon n' Bannock features an all-Indigenous Canadian staff? Source: “My bistro is unique. It’s the only restaurant in Vancouver that offers 100 percent First Nations’ food, and it’s staffed entirely by Native people” Tammemagi, Hans (13 September 2018). "Traditional Food Makes a Comeback in the Pacific Northwest". ICT News. Retrieved 11 October 2024.
"From the outset, Cook wanted Salmon n' Bannock to feature an all-Indigenous team representing as many different Nations as possible." Urwin, Simon (18 March 2021). "The restaurateur who overcame Canada's Sixties Scoop". BBC. Retrieved 10 October 2024. - Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Slop (artificial intelligence)
- Comment: Thank you so much in advance for the reviewer for their time reviewing this article! In terms of some context for the first hook, Inez Cook was a victim of the Sixties Scoop, a policy of forced assimilation which saw Indigenous Canadian children removed from their families and placed into White Canadian households. Cook is Nuxalk, but was removed from her culture. The restaurant's coverage led to Nuxalk community members coming to the restaurant and finding her extended familial ties within the community and beyond.
Ornithoptera (talk) 02:55, 12 October 2024 (UTC).
Glomp
- ... that a "glomping circle" (practice pictured) in 2008 reportedly lasted for over seven hours?
- Source: Geographical Aesthetics: Imagining Space, Staging Encounters
Morgan695 (talk) 23:05, 11 October 2024 (UTC).
Anatolii Brezvin
- ... that Anatolii Brezvin began a program to open 60 ice rinks in Ukraine within five years?
- ALT1: ... that Anatolii Brezvin helped establish a minor ice hockey championship in Ukraine, and sought to open 60 ice rinks? Source: https://www.iihf.com/en/events/2024/wm/static/60880/anatolii_brezvin
- ALT2: ... that Anatolii Brezvin created a women's ice hockey championship in Ukraine, and entered their national team into the IIHF World Women's Championship? Source: https://www.iihf.com/en/events/2024/wm/static/60880/anatolii_brezvin
- Reviewed: Nathaniel Coe and Albert Schädler
- Comment: I volunteer two QPQ credits for one nomination, to help reduce the backlog of nominations without reviews.
Flibirigit (talk) 21:52, 11 October 2024 (UTC).
Fengshan (general)
- Source: Zhu Jiang (朱江) (9 October 2010). "Bombs Fall" 炸弹落入 (in Chinese). Phoenix Television. Retrieved 11 October 2024. "后来一段时期,因“炸弹”与“炸蛋”同音,广州不少餐馆曾把这道菜叫做“凤山入城”。(Later, because "bomb" and "fried egg" have the same pronunciation, many restaurants in Guangzhou called this dish "Fengshan Enters the City)."
- ALT1: ... that the assassination of Fengshan (pictured) resulted in a pun combining fried eggs and bombs? Source: Zhu Jiang (朱江) (9 October 2010). "Bombs Fall" 炸弹落入 (in Chinese). Phoenix Television. Retrieved 11 October 2024. "后来一段时期,因“炸弹”与“炸蛋”同音,广州不少餐馆曾把这道菜叫做“凤山入城”。(Later, because "bomb" and "fried egg" have the same pronunciation, many restaurants in Guangzhou called this dish "Fengshan Enters the City)."
- ALT2: ... that Fengshan (pictured) began as a translator but ultimately led several divisions of the Beiyang Army? Source: *Rhoads, Edward J. M. (2000). Manchus and Han: Ethnic Relations and Political Power in Late Qing and Early Republican China, 1861–1928. Seattle: University of Washington Press. ISBN 978-0-295-98040-9.
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/The Cock Destroyers (1 of 2)
— Chris Woodrich (talk) 21:38, 11 October 2024 (UTC).
Aaj Ki Raat (2024 song)
- ... that Sachin–Jigar's 2024 single "Aaj Ki Raat" from the film Stree 2 peaked at #1 on Billboard India for consecutive eleven weeks through 24 August 2024 to 2 November 2024?
- ALT1: ... that Sachin–Jigar's 2024 single "Aaj Ki Raat" from the film Stree 2 was shot on Tamannaah Bhatia's birthday in the 5 degree temperature? Source: https://www.aninews.in/news/entertainment/bollywood/its-special-because-i-shot-it-on-my-birthday-tamannaah-bhatia-on-her-song-aaj-ki-raat-from-stree-220240727200804/
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Doris Ilda Allen
KunalAggarwal95 (talk) 16:44, 11 October 2024 (UTC).
Articles created/expanded on October 12
[edit]Hasan Ali (activist)
- ... that in 1996, language activist Hasan Ali used seven sentences to distinguish the Osing language from Javanese in front of experts? Source: [13], p30-31
- ALT1: ... that language activist Hasan Ali spent over 20 years to compile a dictionary of the Osing language? Source: [14]
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Mobtown Ballroom
- Comment: -
Juxlos (talk) 08:08, 14 October 2024 (UTC).
- The article was new enough and long enough at the time of the nomination. I did not find any close paraphrasing. Sources are mostly in Indonesian so assuming good faith for them, although the PhD dissertation is in English and the stuff it verifies is verified. I will leave the choice in hook to the promoter. There are just two issues, one for each hook. For ALT0, I'm not actually sure if a PhD dissertation is a suitable source in this case, although it's not giving an exceptional claim perhaps it might be usable. For ALT1, the sentence saying that it was finished in 2002 (and thus the dictionary took 24 years to finish) lacks a footnote, so right now it doesn't meet WP:DYKCITE. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 10:19, 21 October 2024 (UTC)
- @Juxlos: Please address the above. Z1720 (talk) 23:26, 29 October 2024 (UTC)
- Added inline for ALT1. Juxlos (talk) 03:09, 30 October 2024 (UTC)
Ragnvi Torslow
- ... that Ragnvi Torslow, a five-time Swedish figure skating champion in 1920s went on to be one of the founders of the Bilkåren voluntary defence corps, training 3000 women to drive during World War II?
- Reviewed:
MumphingSquirrel (talk) 18:19, 13 October 2024 (UTC).
Articles created/expanded on October 13
[edit]Elin Falk
- ... that Elin Falk revolutionised the teaching of gymnastics in Swedish schools in the early twentieth century?
- Reviewed:
MumphingSquirrel (talk) 21:01, 17 October 2024 (UTC).
Gutidara
- ... that Gutidara is played with balls made from water buffalo's horns? Source: Translated Source 1 Translated Source 2
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Flag of Falcón state
- Comment: Article is created 3 days age, complies with pros and character size. Originally translated from corresponding Bengali article. Any copyedit is always welcome for betterment.
FaysaLBinDaruL (talk) 18:37, 16 October 2024 (UTC).
Chen Qiyou
- ... that Chen Qiyou, a would-be assassin, later became part of the Chinese Committee for World Peace?
- Source: Would-be assassin: 陈其尤 [Chen Qiyou] (in Chinese). Haifeng County Municipal Government. 6 June 2020. Archived from the original on 12 October 2024. Retrieved 11 October 2024.; Committee for World Peace: Bartke, Wolfgang (2012). Who Was Who in the People's Republic of China: With More than 3100 Portraits. Walter de Gruyter. ISBN 978-3-11-096823-1.
- ALT1: ... that Chen Qiyou was made a personal representative of Chiang Kai-shek in Hong Kong, but later published a newspaper challenging his leadership? Source: Song Yuzhi (宋淯知) (5 September 2018). 陈其尤:其心昭昭 致公情尤 [Chen Qiyou: His Heart is Clear and His Love for the Public is Strong]. China Children's Press (in Chinese). Archived from the original on 13 October 2024. Retrieved 13 October 2024 – via Xinhai Revolution Network.
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/The Cock Destroyers (2 of 2)
— Chris Woodrich (talk) 00:45, 14 October 2024 (UTC).
Thokchom Chandrasekhar Singh
- ... that Manipuri socialist politician Thokchom Chandrasekhar Singh was jailed for 12 months for protests in favour of restoring the state legislative assembly?
- Source: Who's who in the Manipur Legislative Assembly. Manipur Legislative Assembly Secretariat., 1964. p. 10
Soman (talk) 15:15, 13 October 2024 (UTC).
1957 Manipur Territorial Council election
- ... that out of 148 candidates in the 1957 Manipur Territorial Council election there was only one woman?
- Source: V. Venkata Rao. A Century of Government and Politics in North East India, 1874-1980: Manipur. S. Chand, 1991. pp. 92-93, 194
Soman (talk) 15:12, 13 October 2024 (UTC).
Anastasia Somoza
- ... that as a nine-year-old, disability rights advocate Anastasia Somoza lobbied U.S president Bill Clinton for her twin sister to be allowed to join her in a mainstream classroom? Source: Desert News
Innisfree987 (talk) 09:30, 13 October 2024 (UTC).
Nazi crimes against children
- ... that Nazi crimes against children resulted in over two million victims, from actions such as euthanasia to kidnapping and mass murder? Source: 2m estimate from cited book Lukas (1994). For other keywords, see academic sources cited in relevant sections
Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 06:09, 13 October 2024 (UTC).
Articles created/expanded on October 15
[edit]Common fixed point problem
- ... that in 1967, two mathematicians published PhD dissertations independently disproving the same thirteen-year-old conjecture?
- Source: "The purpose of this paper is to answer Dyer's question in the negative by the construction of a pair of commuting functions which have no fixed point in common. [...] This paper is a condensation of the author's 1967 doctoral dissertation", from a paper by Boyce . "It has been conjectured that any two continuous functions f, g mapping the closed unit interval into itself which commute under composition [...] must have a common fixed point [...] Chapter 2 defines a pair of functions which show that the conjecture is false", from Huneke's 1967 PhD dissertation.
- Reviewed:
- Comment: If the reviewer doesn't have ProQuest access, I can provide a copy of Huneke's dissertation over email.
jlwoodwa (talk) 19:15, 16 October 2024 (UTC).
Song Zhenzhong, Song Qiyun, Xu Linxia
- ... that Song Zhenzhong (pictured), the son of Song Qiyun and Xu Linxia, was detained by the Kuomintang before his first birthday and executed at age eight?
- Source: Zhang Jingshu (张静姝) (24 May 2019). 宋绮云、徐林侠:革命伴侣共谱赞歌 [The Short but Brilliant Eight-Year Life of "Little Radish Head" Song Zhenzhong]. Beijing News (in Chinese). China News Service. Archived from the original on 15 October 2024. Retrieved 15 October 2024.
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Filomena Fortes, Template:Did you know nominations/Anaïs Gallagher (1 and 2 of 3)
— Chris Woodrich (talk) 19:49, 15 October 2024 (UTC).
Bliss (photograph)
- ... that Bliss, the default wallpaper of Windows XP, was initially a stock photo? Source: Rooke, Hannah (August 7, 2023). "Have You Seen the "Most Viewed Photo Ever"?". Digital Camera World. Archived from the original on October 8, 2024. Retrieved October 7, 2024.
- ALT1: ... that the lush rolling hill of Bliss, the default wallpaper of Windows XP, is now covered with vineyards? Source: Rooke, Hannah (August 7, 2023). "Have You Seen the "Most Viewed Photo Ever"?". Digital Camera World. Archived from the original on October 8, 2024. Retrieved October 7, 2024.
- ALT2: ... that Bliss, the default wallpaper of Windows XP, was photographed in Sonoma County, California? Source: Rooke, Hannah (August 7, 2023). "Have You Seen the "Most Viewed Photo Ever"?". Digital Camera World. Archived from the original on October 8, 2024. Retrieved October 7, 2024.
- ALT3: ... that Bliss, the default wallpaper of Windows XP, was photographed by a former National Geographic photographer? Source: Rooke, Hannah (August 7, 2023). "Have You Seen the "Most Viewed Photo Ever"?". Digital Camera World. Archived from the original on October 8, 2024. Retrieved October 7, 2024.
- ALT4: ... that the rolling hill of Bliss, the default wallpaper of Windows XP, was captured after a phylloxera infestation? Source: Cain, Abigail (July 3, 2017). "The Story Behind the World's Most Famous Desktop Background". Artsy. Archived from the original on July 13, 2024. Retrieved October 7, 2024.
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/1909 Chinese provincial elections
Vacant0 (talk • contribs) 17:06, 15 October 2024 (UTC).
- Would you like to include the wallpaper itself as image hook? I think the nostalgic value it provides would make the hook even more interesting. Nineteen Ninety-Four guy (talk) 05:47, 30 October 2024 (UTC)
- Bliss is still copyrighted right? DYK doesn't allow fair-use pictures to be used on the Main Page unfortunately. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 12:28, 30 October 2024 (UTC)
- Yes, it is copyrighted and owned by Microsoft. It would be cool to include the photograph but I'm unsure if DYK rules allow this. Vacant0 (talk • contribs) 20:16, 30 October 2024 (UTC)
- From WP:DYKIMG:
The media must be freely licensed—fair-use images are not permitted on the Main Page.
So the answer is no. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 00:44, 31 October 2024 (UTC)
- From WP:DYKIMG:
- Yes, it is copyrighted and owned by Microsoft. It would be cool to include the photograph but I'm unsure if DYK rules allow this. Vacant0 (talk • contribs) 20:16, 30 October 2024 (UTC)
- Bliss is still copyrighted right? DYK doesn't allow fair-use pictures to be used on the Main Page unfortunately. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 12:28, 30 October 2024 (UTC)
- May I suggest the short-and-sweet "ALT5: ... that you can find bliss in California?" (or the passive voice but less funny "... that bliss can be found in California") as a potential April Fools fact? Leafy46 (talk) 03:41, 31 October 2024 (UTC)
- I'd rather prefer other proposed blurbs. Vacant0 (talk • contribs) 21:10, 31 October 2024 (UTC)
Yen and Ai-Lee
- ... that the director of Yen and Ai-Lee created the film to collaborate with his actress wife?
- Source: [2]
- ALT1: ... that Yen and Ai-Lee is the first Taiwanese film to win a Kim Jiseok Award at the Busan International Film Festival? Source: [3]
- ALT2: ... that the dual roles played by Kimi Hsia in Yen and Ai-Lee were originally conceived as two distinct characters? Source: [4]
- ALT3: ... that the 2024 film Yen and Ai-Lee is shot in black-and-white? Source: [5][6]
- ALT4: ... that Yen and Ai-Lee was set in Meinong District, Kaohsiung, because the director felt its landscape was suitable for black-and-white cinematography? Source: [7]
- ALT5: ... that the opening scene of Yen and Ai-Lee was rewritten as a long take due to rain during filming? Source: [8]
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Pan He
Prince of Erebor(The Book of Mazarbul) 14:34, 15 October 2024 (UTC).
- ^ Siebert, Brian. "From the Lindy Hop to Hip-Hop in One Improvising Body". New York Times. New York Times. Retrieved 2022-11-16.
- ^ Chou, Inna (4 October 2024). "《小雁與吳愛麗》入圍釜山影展、金馬8項大獎!劇情、上映日期、預告⋯電影資訊一覽". Vogue Taiwan (in Chinese). Retrieved 15 October 2024.
導演林書宇也進一步透露拍攝《小雁與吳愛麗》的靈感,就是來自於想要和妻子夏于喬一起拍一部電影
[Director Tom Lin Shu-yu further revealed that the inspiration for Yen and Ai-Lee came from his desire to make a film with his wife, Kimi Hsia.] - ^ Liao, Yu-yang; Lai, Sunny (11 October 2024). "Taiwanese film wins top prize at Busan Int'l Film Festival". Focus Taiwan. Retrieved 15 October 2024.
Taiwanese film "Yen and Ai-Lee" (小雁與吳愛麗) won the Busan International Film Festival's (BIFF) top prize "Kim Jiseok Award" on Friday, marking the first Taiwanese film to receive the award.
- ^ 許瑞麟 (1 October 2024). "林書宇專訪/《小雁與吳愛麗》寫過最沒把握的劇本 接受自己的「工整」:這是我的天性". Yahoo! News (in Chinese). Retrieved 14 October 2024.
「一開始在寫劇本的時候,我只是想要看到一個更生人的夏于喬,同時我也想要看到另外一個在上表演課的夏于喬,但這兩個角色是怎麼一回事,其實寫的時候我不知道。」沒想到寫著寫著,便將片中「兩個夏于喬」連結在一起,為觀眾增添了一點驚喜。
["At the beginning of writing the script, I just wanted to see a rehabilitated Kimi Hsia, while also wanting to see another Hsia taking acting classes, but I did not know how these two characters would connect." Unexpectedly, as he continued writing, he merged the "two Kimi Hsias" into one, adding a surprise for the audience.] - ^ Howell, June (3 October 2024). "夏于喬、林書宇首度合作《小雁與吳愛麗》成金馬獎贏家,亮眼成績背後藏深刻夫妻相處之道:「下班就不要談公事!」". Tatler Asia (in Chinese). Retrieved 14 October 2024.
選擇黑白的視覺呈現方式,並非一個單純的美學決定,而是一種深刻情感的凝聚與放大。林書宇指出,這部電影並不是史詩般的宏大敘事,而是細膩捕捉母女之間複雜的情感流動。他認為,黑白影像能夠去除色彩的干擾,使觀眾更專注於演員的表演。
[The choice of a black-and-white visual style is not merely an aesthetic decision but a way to condense and amplify deep emotions. Tom Lin Shu-yu pointed out that this film is not an epic narrative, but rather delicately captures the complex emotional flow between a mother and daughter. He believes that black-and-white imagery removes the distraction of color, allowing the audience to focus more on the actors' performances.] - ^ Scott, Matthew (10 October 2024). "It's all there in black and white in 'Yen and Ai-Lee'". Taiwan News. Retrieved 14 October 2024.
First, the film deals with domestic violence, and Lin chose to shoot in black and white.
- ^ "平衡直覺與現實,在限制中找到自由──專訪《小雁與吳愛麗》導演林書宇". Filmaholic (in Chinese). 10 October 2024. Retrieved 14 October 2024.
他親自開車到處尋找鄉鎮,一個個拍照、調成黑白看感覺,因景觀樣貌而非文化特性挑中了美濃。
[He (Tom Lin Shu-yu) personally drove around searching for towns, taking photos and adjusting them to black-and-white to gauge the feel, ultimately choosing Meinong based on its landscape rather than its cultural characteristics.] - ^ "平衡直覺與現實,在限制中找到自由──專訪《小雁與吳愛麗》導演林書宇". Filmaholic (in Chinese). 10 October 2024. Retrieved 14 October 2024.
本片令人印象深刻的長鏡頭開場,便是情急之下生出的靈光──原本林書宇安排很多分鏡,小雁會騎腳踏車經過夜市,鏡頭先帶到眾人看她的反應,才轉而見到小雁本人。景都勘好了,卻無奈碰上無法控制的雨,如果將就在有雨的狀況下拍了一顆,下一顆鏡頭便要考慮連戲問題,但又沒預算發水車⋯⋯。為此,林書宇連夜苦思後決定:改用一顆長鏡頭搞定,並利用多 roll 的空景時間拿來放片頭 credit。
[The film’s iconic long take opening scene was born from a moment of urgency—originally, Tom Lin Shu-yu had planned many shots where Yen would ride her bicycle through the night market, first showing the reactions of those watching before revealing Yen herself. The locations were scouted, but unfortunately, they faced uncontrollable rain; if they filmed in the rain for one shot, they would have to consider continuity for the next shot, but there was no budget for a water truck... As a result, after a night of contemplation, Lin Shu-yu decided to use a single long take to accomplish this and utilized the extra roll of empty scenery to display the opening credits.]
Ratnākara
- ... that Ratnākara may have invented the poetic device of vakrokti?
- Source: Bronner and McCrea 2001 439–440.
- Reviewed:
TryKid [dubious – discuss] 07:48, 15 October 2024 (UTC).
- A new hook with additional context might be needed here, as the typical reader might not understand the intended meaning of the hook. Essentially, it might not meet WP:DYKINT, specifically the part about specialist knowledge. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 00:29, 1 November 2024 (UTC)
2018 Batman by-election
- ... that at the 2018 Batman by-election, the Division of Batman was politically divided by the "hipster-proof fence" or "quinoa curtain"?
- ALT1: ... that the 2018 Batman by-election caused significant in-fighting within the Australian Greens that damaged their campaign at the 2018 Victorian state election? Source: https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-03-29/greens-blame-internal-problems-negative-media-for-election-loss/10950124
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Bill Morrow (Australian politician)
GraziePrego (talk) 03:11, 15 October 2024 (UTC).
- Not a reivew, however an alternative hook:
- ALT2: ... that during the 2018 Batman by-election campaign Teresa van Lieshout, a perennial candidate, taped their mouth shut and picketed a candidates' forum when they weren't invited? Source: https://www.northweststar.com.au/story/5269156/batman-by-election-candidates-speak-out/
TarnishedPathtalk 06:38, 22 October 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on October 16
[edit]Frank A. Kimball
- ... that in exchange for thousands of acres, Frank A. Kimball brought a transcontinental rail terminus to National City, California?
- ALT1: ... that in 1880, Frank A. Kimball helped organize the first San Diego County Fair? Source: "Remembering the history of San Diego's county fair"
- ALT2: ... that Frank A. Kimball's efforts led to the construction of the Sweetwater Dam? Source: "Sweetwater Dam: Foresight of Frank Kimball prominent in centennial"
- ALT3: ... that the olive oil mill constructed by Frank A. Kimball was the second one constructed in the United States? Source: Phillips, Irene (1960). Mission Olive Industry and other South Bay Stories. National City, California: South Bay Press.
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Tea production in Indonesia
- Comment: Article created through work in a draft space over multiple edit-a-thons organized by the San Diego Central Library in cooperation with San Diego Wikimedians User Group. Content was moved from user draftspace to mainspace on October 16, 2024; the article has 7228 characters, significant number of citations through out its prose, neutrally written, and is free of copyright violations. All hooks are under 200 characters. Image is in the public domain.
RightCowLeftCoast (Moo) 03:42, 17 October 2024 (UTC).
- Hi @RightCowLeftCoast:! This article is new enough, long enough, no copyvio, certainly well-sourced. I think the first hook is the most interesting. QPQ done.
- This is nice work, but I have some problems to address: I don't understand the phrase "build a transcontinental railroad Pacific terminus" on the page, could you clear it up? Do we know why Kimball wrote a family history of Estudillo? Was he a relation? Otherwise that sentence is a bit out of left field. The information in the lede about him donating land for cemeteries, schools, and churches is not in the body, could you incorporate it (and maybe elaborate on it)? The current DYK image is not sufficiently clear at this resolution (but this image, which is already used on the page, probably would be). Best, Tenpop421 (talk) 19:02, 31 October 2024 (UTC)
- Also, the first hook probably has the wrong citation. I can't see anything about thousands of acres. Maybe a citation to this would be more appropriate? Tenpop421 (talk) 19:06, 31 October 2024 (UTC)
Lyncoya Jackson
- ... that the adoption of a Muscogee orphan Lyncoya by Andrew Jackson was framed by Jackson's political allies as a defense against charges that Jackson was a bloodthirsty Indian killer?
- Reviewed: Hyborian War
KAVEBEAR (talk) 03:00, 17 October 2024 (UTC).
- TYSM for the nice nomination KAVEBEAR! I am here at everybody's convenience for comments questions revisions etc. Cheers, jengod (talk) 03:23, 17 October 2024 (UTC)
- Source for this hook: "For Jackson and his supporters, however, Lyncoya remained Jackson's "benevolent object." By telling the story of Lyncoya's adoption, they tried to craft Jackson into more than a military general who had slaughtered Indigenous peoples." From doi:10.18130/V3Q364 Rachel Jackson and the Search for Zion, 1760s-1830s, Gismondi, Melissa, University of Virginia, p. 152 jengod (talk) 00:16, 18 October 2024 (UTC)
- Public domain image that's not too trauma-porn, just FYI --> File:Images from Pictorial Life of Andrew Jackson 1847 by John Frost illustrated by William Croome 04.jpg jengod (talk) 04:04, 18 October 2024 (UTC)
Susanne Craig
- ... that Susanne Craig was born in the same hospital as Ted Cruz a year apart?
- Reviewed:
Lisha2037 (talk) 00:23, 17 October 2024 (UTC).
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Hook eligibility:
- Cited: - Hook doesn't appear to be supported by article. Cannot find mention of Cruz in edit history.
- Interesting: - Is there more context that can be given that signals why this is interesting, beyond coincidence? It looks like there might be at this article, but it's paywalled.
QPQ: None required. |
Overall: Updated - see ALT1 and ALT2 below. Great work getting this article to GA status! It looks like this hook isn't in the article - please take a look at WP:DYKHOOK. Even if it were, I'm not sure it's the most interesting hook there could be for this article unless there's missing detail from the source. Please take a look and see if this one can be improved, or if there's another you'd suggest. Jonathan Deamer (talk) 09:08, 18 October 2024 (UTC)
- Jonathan Deamer it’s my first time nominating for DYK so I’m still getting used to what that entails regarding style and interest. If you would be done to suggest something? I think since elections are coming up maybe something related to that and the Trump a tax story? Lisha2037— Preceding undated comment added 15:28, 19 October 2024 (UTC)
- How about something on the fact they she received the first batch of tax return documents anonymously in her mailbox? The NPR source has some additional colour on this.
- The early career section could be expanded with some of the details on her time at the Guantlet from this piece. Pullitzer prize winner only started journalism to get free dinner theatre tickets could be a fun hook if you can find the right wording :) Jonathan Deamer (talk) 12:42, 20 October 2024 (UTC)
- @Jonathan Deamer I think the tax idea is better for the current events. Did you know the journalist who won the Pulitzer for breaking the story on Trump’s taxes received them anonymously in her mailbox? Lisha2037— Preceding undated comment added 23:12, 20 October 2024 (UTC)
@Lisha2037 Thanks! I've taken the liberty of building on this with a couple of alternatives:
- ALT1: ... that Susanne Craig won a Pulitzer Prize for her reporting on Donald Trump's taxes after receiving his tax records anonymously in her mailbox? NBC, 2016: ""I opened it up and there was three pages of Donald Trump's tax returns there and I just went 'No way!'" she said in an interview with NBC News on Monday. Craig said she was instantly intrigued but skeptical about the authenticity of the documents she’d received anonymously." Pulitzer.org: "The 2019 Pulitzer Prize Winner in Explanatory Reporting [...] David Barstow, Susanne Craig and Russ Buettner of The New York Times. For an exhaustive 18-month investigation of President Donald Trump’s finances that debunked his claims of self-made wealth and revealed a business empire riddled with tax dodges."
- ALT2 (in case direct mentions of politicians is not desirable in DYK for the next few weeks): ... that Pulitzer Prize winner Susanne Craig advises her fellow reporters to check their snail mail? New York Times: "The whole experience has left me eager to share a bit of advice with my fellow reporters: Check your mailboxes. Especially nowadays, when people are worried that anything sent by email will leave forensic fingerprints, “snail mail” is a great way to communicate with us anonymously." Pulitzer.org: "The 2019 Pulitzer Prize Winner in Explanatory Reporting [...] David Barstow, Susanne Craig and Russ Buettner of The New York Times. For an exhaustive 18-month investigation of President Donald Trump’s finances that debunked his claims of self-made wealth and revealed a business empire riddled with tax dodges."
I think either ALT1 or ALT2 is good to go, but to avoid approving "my own" hook, and given this is potentially a contentious subject right now, could another reviewer please take a look just at these two hooks? Thanks in advance! Jonathan Deamer (talk) 20:02, 22 October 2024 (UTC)
- @Jonathan Deamer / I like the first hook better. Let me know what I need to do next! :)— Preceding unsigned comment added by Lisha2037 (talk • contribs) 22:35, 22 October 2024 (UTC)
- @Lisha2037 No further action needed from you! When another editor checks these hooks we're good to go. Jonathan Deamer (talk) 16:36, 30 October 2024 (UTC)
- @Jonathan Deamer / I like the first hook better. Let me know what I need to do next! :)— Preceding unsigned comment added by Lisha2037 (talk • contribs) 22:35, 22 October 2024 (UTC)
Liliget Feast House
- ... that Liliget Feast House featured a longhouse-style interior designed by architect Arthur Erickson?
- Source: "The longhouse, designed by architect Arthur Erickson, was the home of Liliget Feast House, the name being a very literal translation..." Peyton, Gabby (6 June 2023). Where We Ate: A Field Guide to Canada's Restaurants, Past and Present. Appetite by Random House. ISBN 978-0-525-61167-7. Retrieved 16 October 2024.
- ALT1: ... that Liliget Feast House grilled food over alder wood fire to emulate food preparation in the Gitxsan villages where the restaurant's owner grew up in? Source: “We grill most everything over fire,” Watts says proudly. “We use alder wood so that everything we cook tastes so much like the food we used to eat in our villages.” "Dolly Watts Business and Commerce (2001)". Indspire. 20 November 2014. Retrieved 16 October 2024.
- ALT2: ... that ambience in the Liliget Feast House included chants, "laughing water", and pan flute music? Source: "It's in the style of the coastal Northwestern tribes, and they play "laughing water" and chants for ambience." Greenberg, Peter (23 July 2002). Travel Detective Flight Crew Confidential: People Who Fly for a Living Reveal Insider Secrets and Hidden Values in Cities and Airports Around the World. Random House Publishing Group. ISBN 978-1-58836-127-1. Retrieved 16 October 2024.
"a place where the walls are adorned by a striking selection of native art and where pan flute music fills the air." Colombara, Michael (1999). "Restaurant Reviews 1999". Pacific Rim Magazine. Langara College. Retrieved 16 October 2024. - ALT3: ... that "unusual choices" at Liliget Feast House included wind-dried salmon and pan-fried oolichans? Source: "Wind-dried salmon and pan-fried oolichans (candlefish, a member of the smelt family) are some of the unusual choices at Liliget Feast House, 1724 Davie Street, (604) 681-7044, which specializes in Northwest Coast Indian food." Carmichael, Suzanne (28 April 1996). "WHAT'S DOING IN;Vancouver". The New York Times. Retrieved 16 October 2024.
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Teniky
- Comment: I know MOS:DYKPIPE exists, but unless I direct the link to the much more broad "longhouse" article, I can't go link the Longhouses of the Indigenous peoples of North America article, which is much more lengthy. If there is a solution that can be used to resolve this, then I am all ears. As it stands though, there is no clean solution to make it more specific without featuring a pipe. ALT1 is a bit wordy, so if there is a more brisk wording, I am welcome to an alternative hook. ALT2's source refers to "laughing water" in quotations but has no explanation, I assume it refers to water sounds, but there is no further elaboration. Regardless, I thank the reviewer for their time and hope they have a wonderful experience learning about this piece of Vancouver's history. I hope I can work on the third part of this article series shortly.
Ornithoptera (talk) 22:16, 16 October 2024 (UTC).
Articles created/expanded on October 17
[edit]Port Mercer, New Jersey
- ... that the inn serving Port Mercer, New Jersey, was rumored to employ prostitutes imported from Trenton?
- ALT1: ... that locals in the New Jersey community of Port Mercer set up targets along the Delaware and Raritan Canal to coax bargemen into throwing them coal? Source: https://www.westwindsorhistory.com/portmercer.html
- Reviewed:
Lbal (talk) 22:00, 17 October 2024 (UTC).
Anne Marie Armstrong
- ... that Anne Marie Armstrong won 10 state titles in high school?
- Source: [15]
- ALT1: ... that basketball player Anne Marie Armstrong won 10 state titles in high school?
- Source: [16]
- ALT2: ... that in high school, professional basketball player Anne Marie Armstrong won three state titles in volleyball, three state titles in basketball, and four state titles in track and field?
- Source: [17]
- Reviewed:
~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 15:59, 17 October 2024 (UTC).
General: Article is new enough and long enough |
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Hook eligibility:
- Cited:
- Interesting: - n
QPQ: None required. |
Overall: Nice work on the article about Armstrong, WikiOriginal-9! It is sufficiently long enough and was created on the same day as this nomination was, so that is not an issue. Same goes for copyright violations as well. The one concern I have is that I don't find the hook interesting – if I were to read this on the Main Page at the moment, I'd think to myself, "who is Armstrong and in which area or sport did she win 10 state titles in?". Thus, I think it needs a little more work in terms of context and clarity as noted above. The source for it is fine, though. Thanks! ~ Tails Wx 20:42, 19 October 2024 (UTC)
- @WikiOriginal-9: Please address the above.--Launchballer 12:30, 27 October 2024 (UTC)
- Added ALT2. ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 17:32, 27 October 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on October 18
[edit]White Party (Sean Combs)
- ... that Sean Combs promised not to spill champagne on the Declaration of Independence?
- Source: ["No one would ever expect a young black man to be coming to a party with the Declaration of Independence, but I got it, and it's coming with me ... And I promise not to spill champagne on it" https://www.tampabay.com/archive/2004/07/07/p-diddy-does-politics/, https://archive.is/ivRpf, P. Diddy does politics, The Tampa Bay Times, 7 July 2004]
No Swan So Fine (talk) 21:17, 23 October 2024 (UTC).
Griffin–Spalding County Airport
- ... that large aircraft such as the Aviation Traders Carvair once operated on a regular basis from Griffin–Spalding County Airport despite it only having a 3,100-foot-long (940 m) runway?
- Source: Despite the relatively short length of its then 3,100-long runway, Griffin's airport hosted various large piston aircraft including the Douglas DC-3 and the Aviation Traders Carvair, a cargo conversion of the DC-4 from the 1970s until the 1990s.
- Reviewed: Lockheed Martin FB-22
❯❯❯ Mccunicano☕️ 18:29, 23 October 2024 (UTC).
Rada Dyson-Hudson
- ... that despite studying fruit flies for her Westinghouse Science Talent Search-winning experiment and doctoral dissertation, Rada Dyson-Hudson later moved to anthropology in East Africa? Source: V. Rada Dyson-Hudson ... became the second Long Islander to win, for a study of fruit flies + Various species of her dissertation is on Drosophila + the American Anthropologist source
- ALT1: ... that despite originally studying fruit fly genetics as a student, Rada Dyson-Hudson later moved to anthropology in East Africa? Source: American Anthropologist source
- ALT2: ... that anthropologist Rada Dyson-Hudson was denied academic tenure at Johns Hopkins University and Cornell University despite her academic record and capabilities? Source: American Anthropologist source
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Kylian Portal
- Comment: For some reason, WL access to Wiley's American Anthropologist went off after I finished using the ref for this article, so I'll have to AGF for now.
ミラP@Miraclepine 21:28, 22 October 2024 (UTC).
Kenneth Creer
- ... that Kenneth Creer supported the Expanding Earth theory, and suggested that the Earth's expansion rate was related to cosmology and analogous to the Hubble constant?
- Source: [1]
- Reviewed:
- Comment: Interesting fact snippet on a page I just made.
Spiralwidget (talk) 12:09, 20 October 2024 (UTC).
References
- ^ Kragh, Helge (29 November 2019). "Varying Constants of Nature: Fragments of a History". Physics in Perspective. 21: 257–273.
Luo Shiwen
- ... that Luo Shiwen (pictured) led a secret cell of the Chinese Communist Party while detained at a Kuomintang concentration camp?
- Source: * Li Jingya (李惊亚) (4 April 2024). 探访息烽集中营旧址,追寻先烈们的热血与信仰 [Visit the Site of Xifeng Concentration Camp and Trace the Passion and Faith of the Martyrs]. Xinhua Daily Telegraph (in Chinese). Xinhua News Agency. Archived from the original on 14 October 2024. Retrieved 14 October 2024. (existence of the secret cell and its power is also confirmed by Mühlhahn, Klaus (2009). Criminal Justice in China: A History. Cambridge: Harvard University Press. p. 144. ISBN 978-0-674-05433-2.)
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Anaïs Gallagher ]] (3 of 3)
— Chris Woodrich (talk) 16:06, 18 October 2024 (UTC).
General: Article is new enough and long enough |
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Policy compliance:
- Adequate sourcing: - Much of the article is cited to sources like "Devoting One's Efforts to the Party and the People is the Least of One's Worries——Deeds of Martyr Luo Shiwen", which doesn't speak well to their reliability. There is no consensus that Chinese government published sources are reliable for heroic deeds of party members (see, eg, WP:XINHUA).
- Neutral: - Unclear, see above
- Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing: - ? Unable to evaluate translation copyvio from Chinese language sources
Hook eligibility:
- Cited:
- Interesting: - Hook could use improvement. Such underground groups developed in so many locations that political prisoners are jailed together
Image eligibility:
- Freely licensed:
- Used in article:
- Clear at 100px: - Bad quality pic, main page viewers would be better served by not running it
QPQ: Done. |
Overall: (t · c) buidhe 04:59, 19 October 2024 (UTC)
- Hi Buidhe. Thank you for taking a look at this article, though I note that you are supposed to notify the article's creator if you find issues.
- Referring to WP:XINHUA, which you mentioned in your review, the quorum mentioned there reads "Caution should be exercised in using this source, extremely so in case of extraordinary claims on controversial subjects or biographies of living people. When in doubt, try to find better sources instead; use inline attribution if you must use Xinhua." Little mentioned in the Luo Xinhua article crosses the bar of "extraordinary claims", and what does cross that bar is specifically attributed to the source (with an indication that it is state-owned). He lived, he did something, he was detained, he was executed. Where these government sources have been used, I have been careful not to use their description of persons whom the CCP has no reason to like (for example, the conflict with Zhang Guotao is cited to Howard rather than the decidedly less neutral CCP sources, and discussion of Xifeng is cited predominantly to a Harvard University Press book). Likewise, I have deliberately excluded politically charged claims such as Luo's father being bankrupted by the high ROC taxes.
- As per WP:PARTISAN, "reliable sources are not required to be neutral, unbiased, or objective." WP:CONTEXTMATTERS clarifies that "Each source must be carefully weighed to judge whether it is reliable for the statement being made in the Wikipedia article and is an appropriate source for that content." In this case, the sources are used specifically for basic statements of biography. Where statements were extraordinary, such as Mao and Zhou specifically asking for Luo's release, it has been attributed to the source with an indication of the source's potential bias.
- As for the hook, I am deliberately avoiding claims that are sourced exclusively to state-media. How do you feel about:
- ALT1 ... that Luo Shiwen (pictured) led a secret cell of the Chinese Communist Party that negotiated better conditions for inmates at their concentration camp?
- That ALT is supported entirely by Mühlhahn. Regards, — Chris Woodrich (talk) 12:28, 19 October 2024 (UTC)
- Xinhua is, according to consensus,
generally reliable for factual reporting except in areas where the government of China may have a reason to use it for propaganda
, but this topic is exactly one where the Chinese government would have an interest in distorting its own history in order to make the CCP look better. Perhaps other reviewers would have a different opinion, but I don't think that Chinese government published sources should be cited so heavily. (In case you are looking for additional sources, this one is accessible via TWL and seems to mention the article subject). (t · c) buidhe 00:48, 20 October 2024 (UTC)- I think I have Wakeman sitting around somewhere. I'll cite that for a few points, and I can cite some more to the pithy provided by Howard. That being said, a blanket prohibition against mainland Chinese sources (we've been talking about Xinhua, but Sichuan Annals are cited more prevalently, and both the original books and the web edition have the same government ties) for a figure of little interest to KMT historians does seem counter-productive. It may be best to have a third opinion. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 01:39, 20 October 2024 (UTC)
- @Buidhe: Have your concerns been resolved and is this approved? If not, what else needs to be done? Z1720 (talk) 23:29, 29 October 2024 (UTC)
- I think we were looking at having a third party take a look, but I wasn't sure how to proceed. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 14:17, 30 October 2024 (UTC)
- Xinhua is, according to consensus,
Lizzie Esau
- ... that an article about Lizzie Esau was nominated for an award? Source: https://www.spajournalism.com/spanc23-national-awards-shortlists-announced/
- ALT1: ... that after trying to replicate the live sound of "Wait Too Late" in a studio and failing twice, Lizzie Esau recorded the song in a castle? Source: https://readdork.com/features/lizzie-esau-hype-cover-feature-april24/
- ALT2: ... that Lizzie Esau covered a 1955 song for a 2024 series about a 1553 Queen? Source: for 1955, see https://www.standard.co.uk/hp/front/bo-diddley-the-guitarist-who-inspired-the-rolling-stones-dies-6837140.html; for everything else, see https://www.nme.com/news/tv/heres-every-song-in-my-lady-jane-on-amazon-prime-video-3769025
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Liberalism in the Philippines
Launchballer 09:03, 18 October 2024 (UTC).
2024 Kansas City metropolitan area rent strike
- ... that a rent strike in Missouri (pictured) is the first to ever target the United States federal government?
💽 LunaEclipse 💽 ⚧ 【=◈︿◈=】 00:15, 18 October 2024 (UTC).
Articles created/expanded on October 19
[edit]Michel Klein (veterinarian)
- ... that in the 1950s, Michel Klein (pictured) opened one of the first veterinary practices in Paris?
- Source: "Michel Klein, born in 1921 in Romania, studied at the veterinary school in Toulouse, a city where he joined the resistance before fleeing to Spain. Back after the war, he was one of the first to open a veterinary office in Paris in the 1950s."
Thriley (talk) 22:29, 25 October 2024 (UTC).
- The article lacks some basic biographical facts: he was born in Sighet (not in generic northwestern Romania), and he was Jewish, the specific reason most of his family perished at Auschwitz. In Toulouse, he did not attend an unspecified veterinary school, but the École nationale vétérinaire de Toulouse. He was not simply in the vast “French Resistance”, but, as the first source I supplied indicates, in a network run by the Special Operations Executive. And so on. (@Dahn:, this may be of interest.) — Biruitorul Talk 06:40, 27 October 2024 (UTC)
Izvestiya Soveta rabochikh i soldatskikh deputatov goroda Askhabada
- ... that Izvestiya Soveta rabochikh i soldatskikh deputatov goroda Askhabada was the first Bolshevik newspaper published in the Transcaspian Oblast?
- Source: А. А Росляков. Большевики Туркменистана в борьбе за власть Советов. Туркменское государственное изд-во, 1961. p. 328
Soman (talk) 17:35, 19 October 2024 (UTC).
Film Essay on the Euphrates Dam
- ... that a Syrian filmmaker repurposed footage from his first film in his last film in order to criticize his younger self?
꧁Zanahary꧂ 07:38, 19 October 2024 (UTC).
- I'm not sure how this hook squares up against the rules to avoid hooks solely based on the content of works, but regardless of that, I am not sure how it's interesting or relevant that, basically, the filmmaker changed his mind about something... (t · c) buidhe 23:35, 20 October 2024 (UTC)
- That rule is:
If the subject of the hook is a work of fiction or a fictional character, the hook must be focused on a real-world fact.
This is a real-world fact about a nonfiction work. As for the fact, I think it's definitely unusual and remarkable for a filmmaker to make a film criticizing his own work. ꧁Zanahary꧂ 08:12, 21 October 2024 (UTC)
- That rule is:
Articles created/expanded on October 20
[edit]Kere (famine)
- ... that a recurrent famine has haunted Madagascar's southern regions since the 1930s?
꧁Zanahary꧂ 17:35, 27 October 2024 (UTC).
- Hi @Zanahary: this article was a really interesting read. It is new enough, long enough, well-sourced, copyvio-free, presentable. Hook is short, interesting, and cited. I have made some minor edits, but I have a couple more major things I want to address before I give it a good to go:
- First, with regards to the table of Kere events, in the lede it says that there has not been a year without a Kere event in several decades, but the table would imply that there are some years (e.g. 2018-2019) where there have not been Keres. Is this only a table of notable (or named) Keres? Secondly, since there is already an article on the 2021–2022 famine, is it possible to make the two sections on it in the article briefer? The current state of these sections is that they list a lot of individual reports, without much summarizing. Best, Tenpop421 (talk) 01:13, 1 November 2024 (UTC)
- Hi Tenpop421! Thanks for the review. Weirdly, the discrepancy you note comes from the same source. I'll just remove the claim about them happening annually lately, absent further clarity. I'll cut down the 2021–2022 section, too. Thanks again! ꧁Zanahary꧂ 01:41, 1 November 2024 (UTC)
- It's my pleasure! Ping me when you're done. Best, Tenpop421 (talk) 01:46, 1 November 2024 (UTC)
Mwene Muji
... that Mwene Muji was a polity in the Congo Basin which declined in the late 19th century, and when the Belgians collected traditions in 1926, grand claims of its once imperial status were dismissed?ALT1 ... that Mwene Muji was a polity in the Congo Basin, and when the Belgians collected traditions in 1926, grand claims of its once imperial status were dismissed?- ALT2 ... that the grand claims from the ruler of Mwene Muji of them once having imperial status were dismissed by Belgian colonial authorities?
- Source: [18]
- Reviewed:
Kowal2701 (talk) 19:48, 20 October 2024 (UTC).
- Hello and welcome to DYK. Right now the hook does not meet the guidelines for a DYK hook as it's too long (we have a limit of 200 characters for most hooks, and ideally it should be less). In addition, it needs to largely focus on a hooky fact, whereas the current hook is essentially summarizing the article. Please prose a new hook so that the nomination can continue. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 11:18, 21 October 2024 (UTC)
- @Kowal2701: I've also checked the article and right now it's less than 1500 characters long. DYK requires a minimum of 1500 characters of prose to be accepted. If you can expand the article further so that it meets the guidelines then less us know, but if that is not feasible then unfortunately the nomination will have to be rejected. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 11:20, 21 October 2024 (UTC)
@User:Narutolovehinata5 the hook is 197 words long, and it gives context the fact which is that their grand claims were dismissed. I wouldn't say it summarises the article, just the last few sentences. I can expand it further, I think at the moment it's at 1200 words. Are you sure the hook isn't okay?
- Yes, the hook is far too long for DYK, even if it is slightly under the character limit. Perhaps another editor like Launchballer can give some advice on what makes a good hook, especially one that isn't too long. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 12:50, 21 October 2024 (UTC)
- @User:Narutolovehinata5 but surely if it's under the character limit then the length is okay?
- I’ve added alts, I think I know what you were getting at, that the initial hook had too much information in it and wouldn’t entice the reader to click on the article. I think ALT2 is okay? Kowal2701 (talk) 13:18, 21 October 2024 (UTC)
- Yes, ALT2 would work. Since the original issues about length and hooks are now addressed this is ready for a full review. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 00:42, 22 October 2024 (UTC)
- Yes, the hook is far too long for DYK, even if it is slightly under the character limit. Perhaps another editor like Launchballer can give some advice on what makes a good hook, especially one that isn't too long. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 12:50, 21 October 2024 (UTC)
Harvey Tuckett
- ... that cavalry officer Harvey Tuckett retired from the British Army to become an actor, but was shot in a duel by his former commanding officer?
- Source: Siddons, J. H. "Thespic Reminiscences". Demorest's Illustrated Monthly. Vol. 15, no. 1. p. 143. [19]
AntientNestor (talk) 14:19, 20 October 2024 (UTC).
Głos Kolejarzy Ewakuowanych — Golos Evakuirovannykh Zheleznodorozhnikov
- ... that an organ of evacuated Polish railway workers called for unity with All-Russian trade unions around the time of the 1917 October Revolution?
- Source: Ludwik Bazylow, Jan Sobczak. Encyklopedia Rewolucji Październikowej. Wiedza Powszechna, 1987. p. 118
Soman (talk) 12:08, 20 October 2024 (UTC).
Victoria Espinosa
- ... that The Public by Lorca was first performed almost 50 years after it was written, and was directed by Victoria Espinosa (pictured)? Source: "One of her career highlights was directing the 1978 world premiere of the play “El público” (“The Audience”) by Federico García Lorca, a work that could not be released when it was written around 1930 because it frankly addressed homosexual issues." https://globalvoices.org/2019/07/12/victoria-espinosa-farewell-to-a-tireless-activist-for-puerto-rican-theater/
- ALT1: ... that Victoria Espinosa (pictured) acted in Rockaby by Samuel Beckett when she was over 90 years old? Source: https://www.oxfordreference.com/display/10.1093/acref/9780199935796.001.0001/acref-9780199935796-e-744?rskey=uEz4vw&result=742
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/The Nualas
Lajmmoore (talk) 11:35, 20 October 2024 (UTC).
General: Article is new enough and long enough |
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Policy compliance:
- Adequate sourcing:
- Neutral:
- Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:
- Other problems: - There's an issue with the confusing prose in the lead: "Compared to are Myrna Casas and Gilda Navarra"
Hook eligibility:
- Cited:
- Interesting:
- Other problems: - I think ALT0 could be rewritten, as currently the focus isn't on the subject. Something like "... that Victoria Espinosa (pictured) directed the first performance of The Public, almost 50 years after it was written?" would be better.
Image: Image is freely licensed, used in the article, and clear at 100px. |
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Overall: Happy to pass this after the prose issues in the lead are fixed and ALT0 is rewritten to focus on the subject. Ping me when these are addressed. Grnrchst (talk) 11:18, 25 October 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks very much Grnrchst, I've fixed the lead, and another ALT is below:
- ALT3 ... that Victoria Espinosa (pictured) directed the first performance of The Public by Lorca, almost 50 years after it was written? Source: "One of her career highlights was directing the 1978 world premiere of the play “El público” (“The Audience”) by Federico García Lorca, a work that could not be released when it was written around 1930 because it frankly addressed homosexual issues." https://globalvoices.org/2019/07/12/victoria-espinosa-farewell-to-a-tireless-activist-for-puerto-rican-theater/
- Many thanks Lajmmoore (talk) 10:44, 26 October 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on October 21
[edit]Lova Rajaona
- ... that, after living in Norway for almost twenty years, Lova Rajaona returned to her hometown of Antanifotsy in Madagascar to run for mayor?
- Source: Andriamampionona, Lalaina (7 March 2023). "Lova Rajaona – Elle revient de Norvège juste pour devenir maire d'Antanifotsy" [Lova Rajaona – She comes back from Norway just to become the mayor of Antanifotsy]. La Vérité (in French). Retrieved 21 October 2024.
Yue🌙 19:08, 21 October 2024 (UTC).
Articles created/expanded on October 22
[edit]Lou Rash
- ... that in his first year in the NFL, Lou Rash was told he was released and began flying back home, but was told upon landing that the release was a mistake and he was to return?
- Source: Was it a Rash decision?
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Alan Rosen (restaurant owner)
- Comment: QPQ to be done within 24 hours. Open to other ways of wording the hook.
BeanieFan11 (talk) 23:49, 29 October 2024 (UTC).
Castlereagh–Canning duel
- ... that in 1809 the two senior British Cabinet ministers Viscount Castlereagh and George Canning fought a pistol duel?
- ALT1: ... that the Castlereagh–Canning duel was a pistol duel between the British Minister of War Viscount Castlereagh and British Foreign Secretary George Canning, which took place in September 1809?
- Reviewed:
Michael G. Lind (talk) 22:14, 28 October 2024 (UTC).
Al LeBoeuf
- ... that Al LeBoeuf was diagnosed with a rare condition in 2012 from an injury he suffered in 1985?
- Source: Leboff, Michael (November 30, 2017). "Sky Sox coach LeBoeuf redefines 'baseball lifer'". MiLB.com. Retrieved October 24, 2024.
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Rincón Chileno
- Comment: Decided to pipe the name of the condition because nobody has ever heard of it (unless you have it or research it). Is there a better word to use than "suffered"?
– Muboshgu (talk) 16:59, 28 October 2024 (UTC).
Revant Himatsingka
- ... that an Indian social media influencer's viral video on the sugar content of a children's "health drink" compelled its parent company to slash sugar by almost 15%?
- Source: "In addition, Bournvita reduced added sugar by a massive margin of 15% in their product." - https://www.freepressjournal.in/brandsutra/sweet-victory-of-a-one-man-army
"the brand has now reduced the quantity of added sugar by 14.4 percent.", "Previously, the Bournvita product contained 37.4 grams of added sugar per 100 grams of powder. The revised formula has a reduced sugar content of 32.2 grams per 100 grams." - https://www.indiatoday.in/trending-news/story/bournvita-reduces-added-sugar-content-after-backlash-influencer-calls-it-big-win-2480239-2023-12-25
"Cadbury reduced the quantity of added sugar in Bournvita by 14.4 percent in December 2023" - https://thebetterindia.com/350012/revant-himatsingka-food-pharmer-nutrition-ingredient-list-read-label-padhega-india-mumbai/
- Reviewed:
- Comment: I think this is quite an interesting feat on the part of the influencer that a viral video was able to get Cadbury to reduce added sugar in Bournvita (marketed as children's health drink in India) by almost 15%, even as they sent legal notices and filed lawsuits against him. Also, I am new to DYK, and not sure if the hook could be made better than this. Thanks!
—CX Zoom[he/him] (let's talk • {C•X}) 20:22, 26 October 2024 (UTC).
- Not a review. Just noting that you could use this new infobox image for an image hook. Bremps... 07:15, 30 October 2024 (UTC)
Bern Shanks
- ... that Kenny Moore once went skiing with Bruce Babbitt and Bern Shanks?
Chetsford (talk) 22:53, 22 October 2024 (UTC).
Aaron Kennedy
- ... that in his first electoral victory, Aaron Kennedy defeated the premier of New Brunswick?
B3251(talk) 21:26, 22 October 2024 (UTC).
- @B3251: Per a recent rule change, QPQs must now be provided at the time of the nomination; a nomination without a QPQ provided is liable to be closed without warning. Please provide a QPQ as soon as possible, otherwise the nomination may be closed. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 02:33, 26 October 2024 (UTC)
National Gingerbread House Competition
- ... that due to the effects of Hurricane Helene, the National Gingerbread House Competition (pictured) has been canceled for the first time in history?
- Source: In the wake of Hurricane Helene, the Omni Grove Park Inn announced its 32nd annual National Gingerbread House competition. https://www.foxcarolina.com/2024/10/22/omni-grove-park-inn-cancels-national-gingerbread-house-competition/
- Reviewed:
Hkeely (talk) 15:55, 22 October 2024 (UTC).
- Hi Hkeely, welcome to DYK. Interesting article but it is currently below the 1,500 character minimum requirement (see WP:DYKLEN), can it be extended with more content? - Dumelow (talk) 20:20, 22 October 2024 (UTC)
- Hi Dumelow, thank you. I have expanded the article with additional content so that it now surpasses the 1,500 character minimum requirement - Hkeely (talk) 04:17, 23 October 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks Hkeely. The length is now fine, article was created on time (22 October), sources used look to be reliable for the content and I found no issues with overly close paraphrasing, image is good (I trimmed the caption quite a bit). A couple of questions on sourcing:
- I couldn't see in the Fox Carolina source where it said this was the only time the event had been cancelled?
- Can you add a citation in the article for the last sentence of the first paragraph about the TV channels it has been broadcast on?
- Apart from that I think this is good to go - Dumelow (talk) 07:32, 23 October 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks Hkeely. The length is now fine, article was created on time (22 October), sources used look to be reliable for the content and I found no issues with overly close paraphrasing, image is good (I trimmed the caption quite a bit). A couple of questions on sourcing:
- Thanks Dumelow. Thank you for checking this and trimming the caption. I've added a citation for the TV channel coverage. The cancelation information is because the contest started in 1992 and this would have been the 32nd annual event. Since there were 31 events prior, that adds up mathematically. I did include new information about the public display portion being canceled during the Covid pandemic in 2020, though judging did continue that year. - Hkeely (talk) 17:47, 23 October 2024 (UTC)
- Hi Hkeely, if the first event was held in 1992 and it was held every year then 2024 would have been the 33rd event. There are 32 years between the first and last event but 33 events (see fencepost error) - Dumelow (talk) 08:28, 24 October 2024 (UTC)
Robot Alley
- ... that Robot Alley (pictured), an art installation in Portland, Oregon, grew from a three-foot (0.91 m) plastic Stormtrooper, initially placed by the artist to deter crime?
- Reviewed:
- Comment: Awaiting VRT clarification on the photo, shouldn't post until that's complete.
–DMartin 15:16, 22 October 2024 (UTC).
Henry Parnell, 5th Baron Congleton
- ... that 24-year-old Henry Parnell, 5th Baron Congleton was the youngest British parliamentarian killed in the First World War?
- ALT1: ... that Henry Parnell was the youngest member of the UK parliament killed in the First World War? Source: https://www.parliament.uk/about/living-heritage/building/cultural-collections/memorials/in-the-collection/world-war-i/wwi-angel-memorial/
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Growing Form
- Comment: could potentially run on Remembrance Day (11 November)
Moondragon21 (talk) 12:15, 22 October 2024 (UTC).
Articles created/expanded on October 23
[edit]Jugtown Historic District
- ... that a brass band from the New Jersey community of Jugtown was rumored to have drank and fought the police instead of playing at Ulysses S. Grant's funeral?
- ALT1: ... that an underground tunnel between two houses in what is now Jugtown Historic District was used to hide fugitive slaves? Source: Zink, Clifford (2024). Jugtown/Queenston: Jugtown Historic District. Princeton, New Jersey: Princeton Landmark Publications, pp. 6-7
- ALT2: ... that a pottery's presence in a New Jersey village gave it the name Jugtown? Source: Zink, Clifford (2024). Jugtown/Queenston: Jugtown Historic District. Princeton, New Jersey: Princeton Landmark Publications, p. 4
- Reviewed: Template:Did_you_know_nominations/The_Bear_season_2
Not sure where or how to add the QPQ? I've reviewed another article but not sure if I did it correctly. Lbal (talk) 22:40, 24 October 2024 (UTC).
Abortion in Gabon
- ... that while supporting a law easing restrictions on abortion in Gabon, Prime Minister Rose Christiane Raponda said "it is not yet the right time" for further legalization?
- Source: [20] The draft amendment to the Penal Code extends the right to voluntary termination of pregnancy to some extent, although it remains highly conditional. "It is not yet the right time" to liberalise it, Ms Ossouka Raponda said.
— Vigilant Cosmic Penguin 🐧 (talk | contribs) 22:45, 23 October 2024 (UTC).
Tiny Glade
- ... that Tiny Glade was the fourth most played demo on 2024's Steam Next Fest?
- Source: "This cosy game has received a lot of attention, becoming the fourth most-played demo during Steam Next Fest" https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/tiny-glade-release-date
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Music Sounds Better with You
- Comment: I was the one who moved this to mainspace today. However, Ddellas created this and TheGIPGIP expanded this a little before I did most of the work.
JuniperChill (talk) 20:46, 23 October 2024 (UTC).
Foreign policy of the Masoud Pezeshkian administration
- ... that Iranian President Masoud Pezeshkian was the first Iranian president to visit Iraqi Kurdistan?
- ALT1: ... that Iranian President Masoud Pezeshkian was the first Iranian president to attend the 16th BRICS summit following its admission? Source: https://en.irna.ir/news/85637049/BRICS-summit-opens-in-Russia-s-Kazan-with-Iran-s-president-in
- Reviewed:
- Comment: First article. I think i've done it right. Just not sure which is the most catch title.
there is an image of him on his main page, maybe someone can add it it this?
Sportsnut24 (talk) 13:45, 23 October 2024 (UTC).
Articles created/expanded on October 24
[edit]Shuah Khan
- ... that Shuah Khan became the first female Linux Foundation Fellow in 2019, joining Linus Torvalds and Greg Kroah-Hartman?
- ALT1: ... that Shuah Khan was the first woman fellow of the Linux Foundation and "signed off" on a patch recommending inclusive terminology in the Linux kernel?
- Sources: https://www.zdnet.com/article/shuah-khan-becomes-the-third-linux-foundation-fellow/ + https://lkml.org/lkml/2020/7/7/9
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Ontology
paul2520 💬 13:41, 28 October 2024 (UTC).
- Not a review. Just noting that you could use the new image for a hook image if you like. Bremps... 07:02, 30 October 2024 (UTC)
Jing Tsu
- ... that Jing Tsu's schoolteachers called her "female tiger" because their punishment had no effect on her?
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Shirt (song)
- Comment: Open to rewording
Kimikel (talk) 04:10, 25 October 2024 (UTC).
A Nail Clipper Romance
- ... that Ekin Cheng delivered his lines in his native Cantonese in the Mandarin-language film A Nail Clipper Romance?
- Source: [1]
- ALT1: ... that A Nail Clipper Romance is an extension of a 2010 short film of the same name which starred Zhou Xun? Source: [2]
- ALT2: ... that Zhou Dongyu learned to surf while filming A Nail Clipper Romance in Hawaii? Source: [3]
- ALT3: ... that Tiffany Ann Hsu made a cameo appearance in A Nail Clipper Romance at the invitation of lead actress Zhou Dongyu? Source: [4]
- ALT4: ... that A Nail Clipper Romance marks the directorial debut of cinematographer Jason Kwan? Source: [5]
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/You Are Here (song)
Prince of Erebor(The Book of Mazarbul) 06:17, 24 October 2024 (UTC).
- ^ 羅偉強 (16 April 2017). "【指甲刀人魔】彭浩翔關智耀專訪 拆解人魔由來". HK01 (in Chinese). Retrieved 24 October 2024.
《指甲刀人魔》雲集兩岸三地演員,而香港代表僅得鄭伊健一人。在戲中作為唯一香港演員,卻不融入一眾內地與台灣演員中一起說普通話,到底為什麼有這樣的安排呢?莫非導演想令《指甲刀人魔》保留多一點香港氣息?原來導演與監製別有心思。「我們想演員以他最熟悉的語言去演繹,會令他以最自然的狀態去完成演出。」關智耀這樣說。而一旁的彭浩翔則從夏威夷的角色出發,他說:「我們在夏威夷所見的,就是很多華人根本就是廣東話與普通話夾雜。他們有一部分人從香港來,亦有部分從內地台灣來。因此我們覺得鄭伊健說廣東話,而其他人說普通話是很夏威夷的一件事。」無論原因是何,作為香港人的大家在戲中聽著伊健講廣東話,都會有多一分親切感吧。
[The film A Nail Clipper Romance features a cast from China, Taiwan, and Hong Kong, with only Ekin Cheng representing Hong Kong. As the sole actor from Hong Kong, he does not speak Mandarin alongside the Chinese and Taiwanese actors. Why is this arrangement in place? Could it be that the director wants to retain a bit of Hong Kong’s essence in A Nail Clipper Romance? It turns out the director and producer have their reasons. "We want the actors to perform in the language they are most comfortable with, as it allows them to present their most natural state", says director Jason Kwan. Meanwhile, Pang Ho-cheung reflects on the Hawaiian context, stating, "What we see in Hawaii is that many Chinese people mix Cantonese and Mandarin. Some come from Hong Kong, while others come from the mainland and Taiwan. Therefore, we felt that having Ekin Cheng speak Cantonese while the others speak Mandarin is very representative of Hawaii". Regardless of the reason, as Hong Kongers, hearing Ekin speak Cantonese in the film adds a sense of familiarity and warmth.] - ^ Ku, Daniel (6 April 2017). "愛情奇幻喜劇《指甲刀人魔》,張孝全、周冬雨夏威夷浪漫談情". Vogue Taiwan (in Chinese). Retrieved 7 October 2024.
到2010年,彭導與網路大電影合作,拍了名為《4夜奇譚》的網路短片系列,其中一夜就是由曾國祥和尹志文執導的《指甲刀人魔》,女主角更是找來周迅。當時影片獲得極高評價,大家都想知道故事的後續發展,因此彭導便有延伸為長篇電影的計畫,只是沒想到計畫一擱就是七年。
[By 2010, director Pang [Ho-cheung] collaborated with an online production company to create a series of web shorts called 4+1 Project, one of which is A Nail Clipper Romance, directed by Derek Tsang and Jimmy Wan, starring Zhou Xun as the female lead. At the time, the film was positively received, and everyone wanted to know what happened next in the story. As a result, Pang decided to expand it into a feature film, although the project ended up being put on hold for seven years.] - ^ "鄭伊健去夏威夷拍戲勁開心 周冬雨讚張孝全性格夠獨特". Sing Tao Daily (in Chinese). 9 March 2017. Archived from the original on 12 March 2017. Retrieved 7 October 2024.
由於全片在夏威夷取景,周冬雨因此愛上衝浪,她更透露跟監製彭浩翔一起衝浪有無比的榮耀感,彭浩翔學了七八節課,但她學了兩節就追上了。
[Since the entire film is shot in Hawaii, Zhou Dongyu falls in love with surfing. She also reveals that she was proud to surf with producer Pang Ho-cheung, as Pang took seven or eight lessons, while she only took two lessons before catching up to him.] - ^ 翁新涵 (25 November 2016). "尷尬了╱阮經天緋聞女友 來台喊許瑋甯「奶奶」". Nownews (in Chinese). Retrieved 21 October 2024.
根據周冬雨表示,她主演的新片《指甲刀人魔》,有邀請許瑋甯客串
[According to Zhou Dongyu, in her new film A Nail Clipper Romance, [she] did invite Tiffany Ann Hsu to make a cameo appearance.] - ^ Wong, Silva (16 March 2017). "'Love Off The Cuff' director talks Hong Kong festival opener". Screen Daily. Retrieved 24 October 2024.
Despite his busy schedule as a writer/director, Pang takes time out to produce for new filmmakers such as Wan, Luk and Jason Kwan, the DoP on both Love In A Puff and Love In The Buff. The latter's directorial debut A Nail Clipper Romance, starring Zhou Dongyu and Joseph Chang, opens on April 14.
Current nominations
[edit]Articles created/expanded on October 25
[edit]Every Night (Hannah Diamond song)
- ... that "Every Night", released ten years ago today, was called "the smartest dumb music out there"?
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Marcia Moore (actress)
- Comment: For November 24, 2024, if possible.
Skyshiftertalk 19:34, 27 October 2024 (UTC).
Trisha Stafford-Odom
- ... that basketball coach Trisha Stafford-Odom left the Eagles to join the Eagles?
- ALT1: ... that women's basketball player Trisha Stafford-Odom was once compared to Charles Barkley for her play as a "scorer, rebounder and part-time enforcer"?
- Source: [23]
~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 02:26, 26 October 2024 (UTC).
Murder of Wang Lianying
- ... that the murder of Wang Lianying was followed by a blitz of newspaper coverage, books, stage performances, a film, and songs (example pictured)?
- Source: Everywhere in the article, but probably the best overview is
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Shin Iza Gawna
- Comment: The media blitz is the most interesting part to me, though the fact that it got coverage in New York is pretty surprising (I also like the illustration)
— Chris Woodrich (talk) 17:22, 25 October 2024 (UTC).
Boxheim Documents
- ... that in 1931, Werner Best drafted for the Nazi Party the plans for a coup?
- Source: Press and Politics in the Weimar Republic. OUP Oxford. pp. 186–187.
- ALT1: ... that under a Nazi plan for a coup, Jews were to be deprived of food rations? Source: https://www.jta.org/archive/jews-to-be-starved-out-if-hitlerists-come-to-power-boxheim-documents-were-authentic-official-statem
- Reviewed:
Jean Po (talk) 15:40, 25 October 2024 (UTC).
Interstate 59 in Alabama
- ... that in 2018, the I-59 and I-65 interchange in Birmingham, Alabama (Malfunction Junction) carried 160,000 vehicles instead of 80,000 as it was intended to hold?
- Reviewed:
NoobThreePointOh (talk) 13:59, 25 October 2024 (UTC).
Voltairine de Cleyre
- ... that Voltairine de Cleyre (pictured) taught herself how to read at the age of four?
- Source: Avrich, Paul (1978). An American Anarchist: The Life of Voltairine de Cleyre. Princeton: Princeton University Press. pp. 24–25. ISBN 978-0-691-04657-0.
- ALT1: ... that Voltairine de Cleyre (pictured) became an anti-authoritarian and anti-theist after her education at a Catholic convent? Source: Avrich, Paul (1978). An American Anarchist: The Life of Voltairine de Cleyre. Princeton: Princeton University Press. pp. 36–37. ISBN 978-0-691-04657-0.
- ALT2: ... that Voltairine de Cleyre (pictured) loved Scotland so much that she said if she could have made a living there, she never would have returned to the United States? Source: Avrich, Paul (1978). An American Anarchist: The Life of Voltairine de Cleyre. Princeton: Princeton University Press. pp. 117–118. ISBN 978-0-691-04657-0.
- ALT3: ... that although Voltairine de Cleyre (pictured) opposed American imperialism, she did not oppose the Spanish–American War, as she believed that the Spanish Empire needed to be broken up? Source: Avrich, Paul (1978). An American Anarchist: The Life of Voltairine de Cleyre. Princeton: Princeton University Press. pp. 122–123. ISBN 978-0-691-04657-0.
- ALT4: ... that after Senator Joseph R. Hawley offered $1,000 to shoot an anarchist, Voltairine de Cleyre (pictured) publicly accepted the challenge? Source: Avrich, Paul (1978). An American Anarchist: The Life of Voltairine de Cleyre. Princeton: Princeton University Press. p. 136. ISBN 978-0-691-04657-0.
- ALT5: ... that after Voltairine de Cleyre (pictured) was shot, the Hahnemann University Hospital did not remove any of the bullets due to its practice of homeopathy? Source: Avrich, Paul (1978). An American Anarchist: The Life of Voltairine de Cleyre. Princeton: Princeton University Press. p. 171. ISBN 978-0-691-04657-0.
- ALT6: ... that Voltairine de Cleyre (pictured) refused to press charges against Herman Helcher, who had attempted to murder her? Source: Avrich, Paul (1978). An American Anarchist: The Life of Voltairine de Cleyre. Princeton: Princeton University Press. p. 174. ISBN 978-0-691-04657-0.
- ALT7: ... that the Norwegian press speculated that Voltairine de Cleyre (pictured) intended to assassinate German Kaiser Wilhelm II, as their trips to Norway coincided? Source: Avrich, Paul (1978). An American Anarchist: The Life of Voltairine de Cleyre. Princeton: Princeton University Press. p. 181. ISBN 978-0-691-04657-0.
- ALT8: ... that despite losing her ability to move or speak due to illness, Voltairine de Cleyre (pictured) refused to accept last rites by scowling at the priest? Source: Avrich, Paul (1978). An American Anarchist: The Life of Voltairine de Cleyre. Princeton: Princeton University Press. pp. 235–236. ISBN 978-0-691-04657-0.
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Victoria Espinosa
- Comment: Apologies for the number of hooks. I just found so many things about de Cleyre's biography interesting that I wanted to provide a good range of options.
Grnrchst (talk) 11:42, 25 October 2024 (UTC).
Articles created/expanded on October 26
[edit]Kim Ju-ae
- ... that North Korea released stamps featuring Kim Jong Un and his daughter at a missile launch in 2023?
- Source: "As North Korea unveils stamps of Kim's daughter, South doubts she is successor". South China Morning Post. 16 February 2023. Retrieved 26 October 2024.
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Xu Xinfu
- Comment: I chose not to include the name "Kim Ju-ae" in this hook because her name has not been confirmed by either of the two Korean governments, as of the time of this nomination.
Yue🌙 04:17, 27 October 2024 (UTC).
- Comment I think having the hook be something like "... that the name of the daughter of North Korean Supreme Leader Kim Jong Un has not yet been confirmed by either Korea?" may be fun. Probably needs to be reworded to be less wordy though. seefooddiet (talk) 09:59, 27 October 2024 (UTC)
- ALT1: ... that North Korean media has never referred to Kim Jong Un's daughter by name, only as his "respected", "precious" or "beloved" daughter?
- Sources:
- Kim, Hyung-Jin; Song, Jiwon (4 January 2024). "South Korea views the young daughter of North Korean leader Kim Jong Un as his likely successor". AP News. Retrieved 26 October 2024.
- Palmer, Elizabeth (16 February 2023). "Why is North Korean leader Kim Jong Un's daughter suddenly front and center?". CBS News. Archived from the original on 16 February 2023. Retrieved 18 October 2024.
- ALT2: ... that the name of Kim Jong Un's daughter has not been confirmed by either of the two Koreas?
- Source: Kang, Hyun-kyung (16 November 2023). "North Korean leader's daughter known by wrong name: expert". The Korea Times. Retrieved 18 October 2024.
- ALT3: ... that the name of Kim Jong Un's daughter is not publicly known?
- Source: Same as ALT2's.
- The descriptors "Supreme Leader", "North Korean leader" or "its leader" could be added by the promoter to any of the hooks if they are successful, but I personally do not think the descriptors are necessary. I am confident that most readers would know who Kim Jong Un is, or at least be able to make the connection with the context of North Korea already there. Having so many extra words just makes the sentence wordy and unnatural. Yue🌙 22:16, 27 October 2024 (UTC)
- I like ALT3. Punchy and concise. In my orig proposal the reason I mentioned "either Koreas" is because the nature of their confirmation would differ, which is somewhat interesting. It means that North Korea did not announce it and South Korea hasn't figured it out yet. I think it's hard to communicate that though, so maybe just not worth mentioning. seefooddiet (talk) 00:21, 28 October 2024 (UTC)
- Agreed. Yue🌙 00:25, 28 October 2024 (UTC)
- I like ALT3. Punchy and concise. In my orig proposal the reason I mentioned "either Koreas" is because the nature of their confirmation would differ, which is somewhat interesting. It means that North Korea did not announce it and South Korea hasn't figured it out yet. I think it's hard to communicate that though, so maybe just not worth mentioning. seefooddiet (talk) 00:21, 28 October 2024 (UTC)
Your Girl
- ... that Mariah Carey used a sample from the New Zealand duo Adeaze on her 2005 song "Your Girl"?
- Source: The New Zealand Herald: "A sample from their New Zealand number one single 'A Life With You' features in 'Your Girl' on her new album, The Emancipation of Mimi."
- ALT1: ... that the 2005 Mariah Carey song "Your Girl" contains a sample from "A Life with You" by the New Zealand duo Adeaze?
- Reviewed:
Heartfox (talk) 21:59, 26 October 2024 (UTC).
Ornithoprion
- ... that Ornithoprion (pictured) was studied primarily using radiographs of its fossils?
- ALT1: ... that Ornithoprion (pictured) may have used its long rostrum to flip shelled prey off of the seabed while feeding? Source: https://www.biodiversitylibrary.org/page/4261459#page/51/mode/1up
- ALT2: ... that Ornithoprion hertwigi (pictured) is named in honor of Oscar Hertwig, who proposed that the vertebrate skull evolved from fused bony scales? Source: https://www.biodiversitylibrary.org/page/4261459#page/46/mode/1up
- Reviewed:
Gasmasque (talk) 18:58, 26 October 2024 (UTC).
- starting review--Kevmin § 02:03, 1 November 2024 (UTC)
All-Russian Union of Assyrians "Khoyad-Atur"
- ... that accusations of irregularities in the allocation of shoe polishing stations by the All-Russian Union of Assyrians "Khoyad-Atur" prompted violent tensions in Moscow in the 1920s?
- Source: Е. Н. Данилова. ДЕЯТЕЛЬНОСТЬ ВСЕРОССИЙСКОГО СОЮЗА АССИРИЙЦЕВ В 20-30-е ГОДЫ XX в. Э О , 2005 г., № 2
Soman (talk) 12:00, 26 October 2024 (UTC).
Marina Kondratyeva2
... that when Marina Kondratyeva appeared as Giselle (pictured) with the Bolshoi Ballet at the Metropolitan Opera in 1962, the headline of the New York Times said that she excelled in the title role?Source: [24]- Reviewed: Hotel Marseilles
- Comment: there was a previous failed nom
--Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:42, 26 October 2024 (UTC)
- A new hook will probably be needed here as the current hook probably does not meet WP:DYKINT. The rationale is the same as the previous nomination: the hook is too complicated, has too many details, and is not a spectacular hook. My suggestion would probably to re-propose ALT1 and ALT4 from the original nomination due to meeting the guidelines better (much more direct to the point, thus meeting WP:DYKTRIM). Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 14:15, 26 October 2024 (UTC)
- How about leaving the review to someone else? Perhaps not everybody will agree with you about being mentioned in a headline of the NYT, for example. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:47, 26 October 2024 (UTC)
- The issue is that the hook does arguably fail both DYKINT and DYKTRIM. Yes the NYT is prestigious, but a hook about a person being praised for doing their job doesn't really work as a hooky hook. It would be like having a hook on DYK saying "DYK that Lionel Messi was praised in the press for his performance during the World Cup final?" Yes a good accomplishment, but not necessarily what DYK is looking for. The other, probably more salient point here, is DYKTRIM: the hooks has several details that may distract from the main point of the hook (that she was praised for her role). DYKTRIM states
don't be afraid to trim hooks of extraneous information and clauses.
Even if DYKINT is subjective, DYKTRIM is less so. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 00:10, 27 October 2024 (UTC)- For example, ALT0 could be simplified to simply "... that a New York Times headline praised Marina Kondratyeva's 1962 performance of Giselle with the Bolshoi Ballet?" Mostly the same idea but a lot shorter per WP:DYKTRIM. I'm still not a fan of that specific angle, but if you really want to go with that one, said wording may meet the guidelines better than the original. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 00:16, 27 October 2024 (UTC)
- You are free to improve the hook, and I like the direction, but ALT0 could still play in Moscow, and the appearance of the complete Russian troupe on New York's most prestigious stage during the Cold War, which I found surprising to put it mildly, would be lost. Minor issues: I try to have the bolded subject in front, and not as a possessive, and I feel that "NYT headline" might be too sloppy for the Main page. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:58, 27 October 2024 (UTC)
- I really don't think ALT0 is going to work out or meet the guidelines, so I've struck it. I'm reproposing two of the hooks from the previous nomination below and offering them as options:
- ALT0a that a New York Times headline praised Marina Kondratyeva's (pictured) 1962 performance of Giselle with the Bolshoi Ballet?
- ALT1 ... that ballerina Marina Kondratyeva (pictured) was said to be "weightless, airy, poetic and spiritual"?
- ALT2 ... that ballerina Marina Kondratyeva (pictured) served the Bolshoi Ballet and its school for over 70 years?
- Is this okay with you, as a compromise? The choice in hook could be left to a different reviewer. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 12:11, 27 October 2024 (UTC)
- You didn't answer my question: How about leaving the review to someone else? Remember? ALT0a: there's still no clue that this played in New York City (not Moscow), and not she is pictured, but she in the role. ALT1: That she appears as weightless and airy is well captured in the image, - no need to say it in quoted words. That she is a ballerina is also clearly visible. ALT2: The sheer length of time served doesn't say a word about that she was top both dancing and training, let alone being the chosen one for a U.S. tour.
ALT0b: ... that when Marina Kondratyeva appeared as Giselle (pictured) with the Bolshoi Ballet at the Metropolitan Opera in 1962, she was praised in the headline of the New York Times?ALT0c: ... that when Marina Kondratyeva appeared with the Bolshoi Ballet at the Metropolitan Opera in 1962, the headline of the New York Times said that she excelled as Giselle (pictured)?--Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:59, 27 October 2024 (UTC)- The issue is WP:DYKTRIM and the hooks you proposed arguably do not meet it. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 13:29, 27 October 2024 (UTC)
- To answer your question directly: I already offered to let someone else review the nomination if you agreed to ALT0a, since it met DYKTRIM. Given I technically proposed ALT1 and ALT2, I couldn't have reviewed the nomination anyway (nor can Storye book since those were originally her proposals). Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 13:31, 27 October 2024 (UTC)
- Floq, what do you think? I pinged you before to just take notice, but since, N. struck two more hooks that I believe are concise enough, and trimming further would reduce information. We claim "did you know", - saying that a ballerina was described as weightless is not passing knowledge, nor that someone served a notable organization for 70 years. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:51, 27 October 2024 (UTC)
- With the caveats that (a) I'm not terribly familiar with the social mores of DYK, and (b) I'm responding to a ping, so I'm not uninvolved:
- If I recall correctly, NLH brought GA to ANI because they felt GA's blurbs were routinely too long and not interesting. And received really strong negative feeback for doing so. It seems suboptimal for NLH to continue to review GA's blurbs and complain they are too long and not interesting. Surely there are enough reviewers for someone else to review?
- Interesting, in particular, is in the eye of the beholder, and NLH received feedback that their eye does not seem to match the overall DYK community.
- It appears a hook should be around 150-160 characters, with an absolute max of 200. This one is 163 or 195 (not sure if you folks count spaces). That seems within range if DYK typically doesn't count spaces, and maybe in need of a trim if DYK usually does.
- Since I'm semi-involved, I won't try to propose a shorter hook myself. The current one doesn't seem confusing, though, which I would think is more important than simple length.
- There might be other things I'm not aware of, so if I've ignored something the DYK community considers important, take this with a grain of salt.
- --Floquenbeam (talk) 17:30, 27 October 2024 (UTC)
- With the caveats that (a) I'm not terribly familiar with the social mores of DYK, and (b) I'm responding to a ping, so I'm not uninvolved:
- Floq, what do you think? I pinged you before to just take notice, but since, N. struck two more hooks that I believe are concise enough, and trimming further would reduce information. We claim "did you know", - saying that a ballerina was described as weightless is not passing knowledge, nor that someone served a notable organization for 70 years. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:51, 27 October 2024 (UTC)
- I really don't think ALT0 is going to work out or meet the guidelines, so I've struck it. I'm reproposing two of the hooks from the previous nomination below and offering them as options:
- You are free to improve the hook, and I like the direction, but ALT0 could still play in Moscow, and the appearance of the complete Russian troupe on New York's most prestigious stage during the Cold War, which I found surprising to put it mildly, would be lost. Minor issues: I try to have the bolded subject in front, and not as a possessive, and I feel that "NYT headline" might be too sloppy for the Main page. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:58, 27 October 2024 (UTC)
- For example, ALT0 could be simplified to simply "... that a New York Times headline praised Marina Kondratyeva's 1962 performance of Giselle with the Bolshoi Ballet?" Mostly the same idea but a lot shorter per WP:DYKTRIM. I'm still not a fan of that specific angle, but if you really want to go with that one, said wording may meet the guidelines better than the original. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 00:16, 27 October 2024 (UTC)
- The issue is that the hook does arguably fail both DYKINT and DYKTRIM. Yes the NYT is prestigious, but a hook about a person being praised for doing their job doesn't really work as a hooky hook. It would be like having a hook on DYK saying "DYK that Lionel Messi was praised in the press for his performance during the World Cup final?" Yes a good accomplishment, but not necessarily what DYK is looking for. The other, probably more salient point here, is DYKTRIM: the hooks has several details that may distract from the main point of the hook (that she was praised for her role). DYKTRIM states
The Christmas Invasion
- ... that "The Christmas Invasion" was the first story for Doctor Who clearly labelled as a Christmas special?
- Source: this is the first story for Doctor Who clearly labelled as a Christmas special [Pixley, Andrew (9 November 2006). "Series Two Companion". Doctor Who Magazine. No. 14 – Special Edition. Page=13]
- ALT1: ... that "The Christmas Invasion" was the first time Doctor Who had featured on the Radio Times Christmas edition cover in the show's forty-two-year history? Source: On 3 December 2005, the annual Christmas edition of the BBC's listings magazine Radio Times was released, featuring a Doctor Who cover to tie-in with "The Christmas Invasion".[25]
- ALT2: ... that "The Christmas Invasion" was the first full episode starring David Tennant as the Tenth Doctor? Source: This special was the first full episode starring David Tennant as the Tenth Doctor.
- Reviewed:
DoctorWhoFan91 (talk) 06:46, 26 October 2024 (UTC).
GeoNet (New Zealand)
- Source: https://thespinoff.co.nz/science/11-10-2024/whos-the-aucklander-who-claims-to-feel-every-earthquake-in-new-zealand -- it says "certain appendage"
―Panamitsu (talk) 03:43, 26 October 2024 (UTC).
- Length, date, qpq, close paraphrase check ok. But is there a possibility for a second reference for the hook fact? The notion that 'certain appendage' is to be understood as a dick requires a bit of reading between the lines, but the ref also talks about this as an one-off incident. --Soman (talk) 11:49, 26 October 2024 (UTC)
- Hmm okay. I've had a look for another source but couldn't find one. Does this mean that I have to find another fact? I've at least changed the plurality of the hook to address that concern.
Articles created/expanded on October 27
[edit]Chiu Yuh-chuan
- ... that future Olympic weightlifter Chiu Yuh-chuan received a job offer in marketing after media coverage about his difficulty securing employment?
- Source: "舉重國手邱毓川失業 北市一公司願提供工作機會" [Weightlifting Champion Chiu Yuh-chuan Unemployed: A Company in Taipei Offers Job Opportunity]. Min Sheng Bao (in Chinese). 1984-07-11. p. 10.
The above source was published on 11 July 1984. Chiu Yuh-chuan competed in the 1984 Summer Olympics, which took place between 28 July and 12 August 1984. The article notes:
From Google Translate:屏東縣唯一入選一九八四年奧運國家代表隊的舉重國手邱毓川,五次打破全國紀錄獲頒多面中正體育獎章,但自省立體專畢業迄今一年多卻苦於一職難求,經報導後,台北市慶宜股份有限公司深表同情,昨日特打長途電話到本報屏東採訪辦事處,表示願主動提供工作機會,解決邱毓川就職問題,熱忱感人。
台北市慶宜貿易有限公司進口科長李聰哲在電話中表示,該公司經營多種商品貿易,為一頗具規模公司,因閱報獲知舉重國手邱毓川一職難求困境,基於為國家培育選手立場,願提供推廣企劃工作機會,除每月待遇一萬八千元左右外,并有業績獎金制度,只要邱毓川願意屈就,該公司竭誠歡迎。
Chiu Yuh-chuan, the only national weightlifter from Pingtung County to be selected for the 1984 Olympics national team, broke national records five times and was awarded multiple Chiang Kai-shek Sports Medals. However, it has been more than a year since he graduated from the provincial three-dimensional college and he has been struggling to find a job. After reports, Taipei City Qingyi Co., Ltd. expresses its deep sympathy. Yesterday, it made a long-distance call to the Pingtung office of this newspaper to interview and expressed its willingness to proactively provide job opportunities to solve Chiu Yuh-chuan's employment problem. The enthusiasm was touching.
Li Congzhe, the import section chief of Taipei City Qingyi Trading Co., Ltd., said on the phone that the company is engaged in the trade of a variety of commodities and is a large-scale company. After reading the newspaper, he learned that the national weightlifter Chiu Yuh-chuan was in a difficult position. Based on the stance of cultivating athletes for the country, The company is willing to provide marketing and planning work opportunities. In addition to a monthly salary of about 18,000 yuan, there is also a performance bonus system. As long as Chiu Yuh-chuan is willing to give in, the company wholeheartedly welcomes him.
Cunard (talk) 07:00, 28 October 2024 (UTC).
History of Key West
- Reviewed:
- Comment: Key West's wrecking, cigar, and salt manufacturing industries allowed it to become one of the wealthiest cities in the United States per capita.
Bronson Fotiadis1 (talk) 00:03, 28 October 2024 (UTC).
General: Article is new enough and long enough |
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Policy compliance:
- Adequate sourcing: - Some of the sources used are not reliable (such as Conch Tour Train, WorldPopulationReview, nationalregisterofhistoricplaces.com [a non-official site], etc.).
- Neutral:
- Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing: - Some close paraphrasing picked up by Earwig is a cause for concern, such as the Federal Wrecking Act paragraph.
Hook eligibility:
- Cited: - WorldPopulationReview is not a reliable source.
- Interesting:
- Other problems: - The link is far, far too long.
Image eligibility:
- Freely licensed:
- Used in article: - Not used in article.
- Clear at 100px: - Not particularly relevant to the proposed hook.
QPQ: None required. |
Overall: The article needs some polishing and some new hooks would be appreciated. SounderBruce 01:20, 1 November 2024 (UTC)
Diana Edwards-Jones
- ... that television director Diana Edwards-Jones was credited with introducing the practice of interspersing a short headline with the hour chimes of Big Ben during the title sequence of News at Ten? Source: Guardian and The Daily Telegraph
- ALT1: ... that television director Diana Edwards-Jones introduced earpieces to permit direct communication between a control room and newsreaders? Source: Guardian and The Daily Telegraph
- Reviewed:
EnthusiastWorld37 (talk) 20:26, 27 October 2024 (UTC).
Articles created/expanded on October 28
[edit]Charles de Gaulle's trip to South America
- ... that when Charles de Gaulle visited Rio de Janeiro, the city's governor refused to greet his ship due to the recent Lobster War?
- Source: "Toujours est-il que les relations franco-brésiliennes s'étaient détériorées. Le Gouverneur de Rio deJaneiro, Carlos LACERDA décide deboycotter l'arrivée dugénéral dons sa ville etc'est le président de la République brésilienne qui doit aller accueillir son hôte à l'arrivée du «Colbert» dons la plus fameuse rode dumonde" Leprun (1994), p. 12
- Reviewed: [[]]
- Comment: Found this article while new page patrolling.
Dan Leonard (talk • contribs) 00:05, 31 October 2024 (UTC).
Chromakopia
- ... that the physical version of Chromakopia contains an extra song?
- Reviewed:
MontanaMako (talk) 21:50, 30 October 2024 (UTC).
Near-miss effect
- ... that gamblers have an inflated confidence when they choose a lottery ticket or throw the roulette ball compared to when another agent does so?
- Source: https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC2658737/(However, it is repeatedly observed that gamblers have inflated confidence (indicated by wager size, for example) when given the opportunity to choose their lottery ticket or throw the dice or roulette ball themselves, compared to conditions where the action is performed by another.)
- ALT1: ... that due to the near-miss effect, gamblers may mistake a game of luck for a game of skill? Source: https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC2658737/(The presence of personal control may be a core factor in causing the gambler to mistake a game of chance for a game with some skill component, which is effectively controllable.)
- Reviewed: [[]]
Who am I? / Talk to me! / What have I done? 13:05, 30 October 2024 (UTC).
Nocturna (band)
- ... that as a result of the COVID-19 lockdowns in Italy, the members of Nocturna met for the first time while recording their debut album?
- Source: Stillnight, Rehn (January 2022). "Nocturna" (Interview). Interviewed by Jeffrey. Metalfan. Retrieved October 28, 2024.
Cambalachero (talk) 16:23, 29 October 2024 (UTC).
Zeng Laishun
- ... that Zeng Laishun (pictured) was the first Chinese person to attend college in the United States?
- Source: Rhoads, Edward J. M. (2011) Stepping Forth into the World: The Chinese Educational Mission to the United States, 1872–81. Pg. 3
Generalissima (talk) (it/she) 21:33, 28 October 2024 (UTC).
- I didn't know he was the first - this is definitely cool and DYK worthy! Blervis (talk) 04:44, 30 October 2024 (UTC)
- @Blervis: If this is a review, make sure to follow the steps at Wikipedia:Did you know/Reviewer instructions; check the source (if possible), and make sure the article fits the DYK criteria. Generalissima (talk) (it/she) 04:56, 30 October 2024 (UTC)
Taurus 09
- ... that Taurus 09 (exercise pictured) was the largest Royal Navy deployment in more than ten years?
- Source: "Joining Alpha Company, 40 Commando Royal Marines, he took part in numerous exercises, most notably TAURUS 09, the largest Royal Naval deployment in over 10 years," from: "Marine Scott Gregory Taylor killed in Afghanistan". British Government. Retrieved 9 October 2024.
- ALT1: ... that the Royal Navy's Taurus 09 deployment (exercise pictured) was featured in the TV series Warship? Source: "Visitors included the former and present First Sea Lords, Admiral Band and Stanhope respectively, a film crew from Granada TV producing the next series of Warship for channel 5" from: "A new experience for so many of us". Navy News. September 2009. p. 4.
- ALT2: ... that as part of the Royal Navy's Taurus 09 deployment sailors from HMS Somerset rowed the length of the Suez Canal? Source: "on the way home through Suez, 81 Somerset officers and sailors 'rowed' the canal, each one rowing two kilometres as quickly as they could, achieving the distance in a total of 10 hours 40 minutes" from: "A new experience for so many of us". Navy News. September 2009. p. 4.
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Herbert Smith (mineralogist)
Dumelow (talk) 12:54, 28 October 2024 (UTC).
Articles created/expanded on October 29
[edit]God of Amiens
- ... that the God of Amiens (head pictured) has a protruding animal ear?
- Source: Mahéo, Noël (1990). "136. Statuette d'une divinité à l'oreille de cervidé". In Viéville, Dominic (ed.). Les collections archéologiques du musée de Picardie. Vol. 1. Amiens: Trois Cailloux. p. 236. ISBN 978-2-402-42576-6.
- ALT1: ... that the God of Amiens (head pictured) has lost his serpent? Source: Mahéo, Noël (1990). "136. Statuette d'une divinité à l'oreille de cervidé". In Viéville, Dominic (ed.). Les collections archéologiques du musée de Picardie. Vol. 1. Amiens: Trois Cailloux. p. 236. ISBN 978-2-402-42576-6.
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Shunten
- Comment: ALT1 is fun, but you might rightly reject it since it relies on a reconstruction, put forth by Lerat, of the statuette as once holding a serpent and grapes. To my knowledge nobody has rejected this reconstruction (Mahéo and Deonna explicitly concur) but it is just a reconstruction.
Tenpop421 (talk) 23:47, 31 October 2024 (UTC).
Peel's Cut
- ... that Peel's Cut was dug by the grandfather of British prime minister Robert Peel?
- Source: "Peel's grandfather, Robert Peel (1723-1795), was a dealer in the Lancashire linen and cotton trade" from: Gaunt, Richard (7 July 2022). Sir Robert Peel: Contemporary Perspectives. Taylor & Francis. pp. 8–11. ISBN 978-1-315-40068-6. and " In the earlier 1780s Robert Peel dug a cut from the west bank of the river near the Branston boundary to power a cotton mill he had opened at Bond End. (fn. 1a) Known as Peel's Cut, it survived until the late 1960s when it was filled in, along with most of the channels which had created the islands in the river." from: "Burton-upon-Trent: Communications A History of the County of Stafford: Volume 9, Burton-Upon-Trent". British History Online. Retrieved 28 October 2024.
- ALT1: ... that the Peel's Cut watercourse in Staffordshire, England, lasted more than 100 years longer than the mill it was excavated to power? Source: As above for date of creation and filling, plus: "Bond End Mill last made cotton in 1849." from: Brook, Fred (1977). The Industrial Archaeology of the British Isles. Batsford. p. 101. ISBN 978-0-7134-0924-6.
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Edmonds (brand)
Dumelow (talk) 17:24, 29 October 2024 (UTC).
Timeless Voyage
- ... that the author of the comic book Timeless Voyage was the leader of a UFO religion? Source: Abgrall, Jean-Marie (1999). "Sectes Ufologiques". Les sectes de l'apocalypse: gourous de l'an 2000 (in French). Paris: Calmann-Lévy. p. 95. ISBN 978-2-7021-2954-8.
Troisième et dernier mouvement exclusivement ufologique répertorié dans le rapport parlementaire sur les sectes : le groupe Siderella, connu sous les appellations successives de Isozen, Futura, Galacteus, Euro-Culture, Italia, Résonances nouvelles, Azur Mieux-Ëtre, les Voyageurs intemporels et, enfin, Siderella. Fondé et dirigé par Jean-Paul Appel — de son nom de gourou Appel Guery [...]. Appel Guery est aussi l'auteur du scénario de la bande dessinée par Sergio Macedo, Voyage intemporel [...]
PARAKANYAA (talk) 05:56, 29 October 2024 (UTC).
Carrlyn Bathe
- ... that sports broadcaster Carrlyn Bathe started her career as a member of the Los Angeles Kings Ice Crew?
- Source: [26]
- ALT1: ... that Carrlyn Bathe met her husband after he sent her gear from his clothing brand? Source: [27]
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Jopie Roosenburg-Goudriaan
Kimikel (talk) 04:05, 29 October 2024 (UTC).
Sheetz–Wawa rivalry
- ... that Pennsylvania lieutenant governor John Fetterman and Congressman Brendan Boyle staged a debate over their favorite gas station chain?
- Source: "In 2020, noted Sheetz freak Sen. John Fetterman (then the state’s lieutenant governor) and U.S. Rep. Brendan Boyle, an ardent Wawa fan, penned op-eds for The Inquirer debating the merits of each chain. In 2021, they participated in a Wawa vs. Sheetz debate on Zoom hosted by City & State Pennsylvania." Philadelphia Inquirer
- ALT1: ... that at the 2024 Democratic National Convention, vice presidential nominee Tim Walz was booed for visiting the "wrong" Pennsylvanian gas station chain? Source: "During a Democratic National Convention breakfast with Pennsylvania delegates, Walz mentioned visiting Sheetz while campaigning Sunday. That drew some lighthearted boos from Wawa loyalists." Delaware Online
- ALT2: ... that Johnny Knoxville and Bam Margera both have tattoos of their favorite Pennsylvanian gas station chain? Source: "MTV's Jackass actor and stuntman Johnny Knoxville sports a Wawa tattoo, and so does skateboarder Bam Margera." Adweek (paywalled)
- Reviewed:
- Comment: First two hooks are WP:DYKELECT until November 7, 2024.
Dan Leonard (talk • contribs) 00:23, 29 October 2024 (UTC).
Articles created/expanded on October 30
[edit]Boise Pro Soccer
- ... that a new soccer team in Boise, Idaho, plans to play at a converted horse racing track? Source: Idaho Press
- Reviewed: History of Key West
SounderBruce 22:10, 31 October 2024 (UTC).
Cycling in China
- ... that China was once the "Kingdom of Bicycles"?
- Source: Tao Xu. "The Rise of the Kingdom of Bicycles". pg. 413. Norcliffe, Glen; Brogan, Una; Cox, Peter; Gao, Boyang; Hadland, Tony; Hanlon, Sheila; Jones, Tim; Oddy, Nicholas; Vivanco, Luis, eds. (2023). Routledge Companion to Cycling. Routledge. ISBN 9780367695088.
Generalissima (talk) (it/she) 16:11, 31 October 2024 (UTC).
Valse in A minor (Chopin)
- ... that the discovery of a new waltz by Chopin (pictured) has been announced by The New York Times?
Maculosae tegmine lyncis (talk) 11:19, 31 October 2024 (UTC).
Tommy Suggs
- ... that Tommy Suggs recommended using Also sprach Zarathustra from 2001: A Space Odyssey as the South Carolina Gamecocks football team's entrance music because he saw Elvis Presley do it first?
- ALT1: ... that as the starting quarterback of the 1969 South Carolina Gamecocks football team, Tommy Suggs led the program to its first and only conference championship? Source: The Post and Courier
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Miracle in Motown
JJonahJackalope (talk) 02:27, 31 October 2024 (UTC).
7th National Eucharistic Congress (United States)
- ... that the future USS Wolverine was used as a hotel during the 7th National Eucharistic Congress in Cleveland?
- Source: "Akron School Children Plan To Attend Eucharistic Mass". The Akron Beacon Journal. Sep 24, 1935. p. 24. Retrieved 30 October 2024. "Pilgrims Shaken". The Cincinnati Post. Sep 24, 1935. p. 1. Retrieved 30 October 2024.
- ALT1: ... that the Seeandbee, later renovated into the aircraft carrier USS Wolverine, was used as a hotel during the 7th National Eucharistic Congress in Cleveland? Source: "Akron School Children Plan To Attend Eucharistic Mass". The Akron Beacon Journal. Sep 24, 1935. p. 24. Retrieved 30 October 2024. "Pilgrims Shaken". The Cincinnati Post. Sep 24, 1935. p. 1. Retrieved 30 October 2024.
- ALT2: ... that a ship used as an aircraft carrier during World War II was used as a hotel during the 7th National Eucharistic Congress in 1935? Source: "Akron School Children Plan To Attend Eucharistic Mass". The Akron Beacon Journal. Sep 24, 1935. p. 24. Retrieved 30 October 2024. "Pilgrims Shaken". The Cincinnati Post. Sep 24, 1935. p. 1. Retrieved 30 October 2024.
- Reviewed:
- Comment: I can email a PDF of the source to anyone reviewing; just shoot me an email. Open to rephrasing hooks if you have any suggestions!
~Darth StabroTalk • Contribs 21:55, 30 October 2024 (UTC).
Charel Allen
- ... that basketball player Charel Allen scored more points in high school than NCAA all-time leading scorer Caitlin Clark?
- Source: [28]
- ALT1: ... in high school, basketball player Charel Allen scored more points than NCAA all-time leading scorer Caitlin Clark?
- Source: [29]
- ALT2: ... that basketball player Charel Allen was a five-time Bulgarian Cup champion despite only knowing a few words of Bulgarian?
- Sources: Five-time champ, "a few words", further context on language barrier: "Halftime speeches are usually all in Bulgarian,” Allen said of the language barrier. “Coach (Stefan Mihaylov) trusts me, though. With my knowledge of the game, I know what he's saying and what we need to do. If not, he'll translate for me later and let me know what I needed to do."]
~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 14:17, 30 October 2024 (UTC).
Interstate 59 in Georgia
- ... that Interstate 59 only has three exits in the U.S. state of Georgia?
- Reviewed:
- Comment: Even though the source shows a blank site, simply click the drop-down menu below and select "Interstate 59" from there. It should display the exits the Interstate has.
NoobThreePointOh (talk) 13:49, 30 October 2024 (UTC).
- Kind of dull as is, especially since the much shorter Louisiana segment also only has three exits. How about ...
- ALT1: ... that there are only three exits along the 33 miles (53 km) of Interstate 59 in Georgia? Daniel Case (talk) 21:49, 31 October 2024 (UTC)
- You mean 33 km? Because there's only 20 miles (32 km) of I-59 in Georgia. I assume you might have made a typo there. I can definitely accept that, though. NoobThreePointOh (talk) 21:52, 31 October 2024 (UTC)
- ALT1: ... that there are only three exits along the 33 miles (53 km) of Interstate 59 in Georgia? Daniel Case (talk) 21:49, 31 October 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on October 31
[edit]Mountain Landscape
- ... that the painting Mountain Landscape is said to defy photographic reproduction, as its immersive depth and luminosity can only be fully experienced in person?
- Source: Hertzlieb, Gregg (Fall/Winter 2009-2010). "Frederic Edwin Church: Mountain Landscape". Valparaiso Poetry Review. Valparaiso University. XI (1).
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Burrito Express
Viriditas (talk) 06:35, 1 November 2024 (UTC).
Adrenal crisis
- ... that the death rate from adrenal crises can amount to 6%? Source: Hahner et al. 2015
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IntentionallyDense (talk) 03:39, 1 November 2024 (UTC).
Zhu Baosan
- ... that the fortune left by Zhu Baosan (pictured) was reported to have been greatly diminished by his philanthropic activities?
- Source: "The Mourning Ceremonies for Mr. Chu Pao-san". The North-China Herald. 6 November 1926. p. 257. "Although Mr. Chu Pao-san was a successful merchant and had such numerous business interests, friends believe that he left only a small fortune, as his contributions to charity were so large."
- ALT1: ... that the business interests of Zhu Baosan (pictured) ranged from banking and insurance to shipping and coal mining? Source: "The Mourning Ceremonies for Mr. Chu Pao-san". The North-China Herald. 6 November 1926. p. 257. "He promoted the Commercial’ Bank of China, the Ningpo Commercial Bank, the Chekiang Industrial Bank and the Chung Hua Commercial. and Savings Bank. He was an organizer of the Wah An Fire and Marine Insurance Company, the Wah Sing Insurance Company, and the China United Assurance Society. He was a director of the Liu Kiang and Chang Hsin Mining Companies. He was interested in the Nantao Tramway Company, the Tinghai Electric [Construction “Company” and the Chousan Electric Company. He was a director of the Chousan Steam Navigation Company, the Yung An Steamship Company, the Yung Leo Shipping Company, 'the Chang Ko Navigation Company, the Ta Tah Navigation Company and in several other shipping interests. He was a prominent shareholder in many cotton and flour mills, pap factories and other industrial enterprises."
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Flag of Falcón state (1 of 2)
— Chris Woodrich (talk) 22:58, 31 October 2024 (UTC).
New World Mall
- ... that upon its opening in 2011, New World Mall (pictured) was the largest Asian shopping mall in the Northeastern United States?
- Source: 1
- ALT1: ... that in 2024, New World Mall (pictured) in Flushing, Queens, was raided by the FBI as part of their investigations into the Eric Adams administration? Source: 2
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/to come
Morgan695 (talk) 16:08, 31 October 2024 (UTC).
Reviewing now...—CurryTime7-24 (talk) 02:37, 1 November 2024 (UTC)
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Overall: Interesting and well-sourced article. No copyright problems. It is new and long enough. Both hooks are interesting (I suspect ALT1 may be more timely). Waiting on the QPQ... —CurryTime7-24 (talk) 02:46, 1 November 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on November 1
[edit]Special occasion holding area
[edit]The holding area is near the top of the Approved page. Please only place approved templates there; do not place them below.
- Do not nominate articles in this section—nominate all articles in the nominations section above, under the date on which the article was created or moved to mainspace, or the expansion began; indicate in the nomination any request for a specially timed appearance on the main page.
- Note: Articles intended to be held for special occasion dates should be nominated within seven days of creation, start of expansion, or promotion to Good Article status. The nomination should be made at least one week prior to the occasion date, to allow time for reviews and promotions through the prep and queue sets, but not more than six weeks in advance. The proposed occasion must be deemed sufficiently special by reviewers. The timeline limitations, including the six week maximum, may be waived by consensus, if a request is made at WT:DYK, but requests are not always successful. Discussion clarifying the hold criteria can be found here: Hold criteria; discussion setting the six week limit can be found here: Six week limit.
- April Fools' Day hooks are exempted from the timeline limit; see Wikipedia:April Fool's Main Page/Did You Know.