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This page has been listed for deletion -Smack 04:31 12 Jul 2003 (UTC)

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Based on the conversation at the VfD page, it seems to be consensus to keep the article as it has been improved vastly. --Dante Alighieri 01:01 17 Jul 2003 (UTC)

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The Congress shall have power to enforce this article by appropriate legislation - a monstrously long title; a disgrace to the name stub. -Smack 04:33 12 Jul 2003 (UTC)
- Unless there's a better or more commonly used name for this particular consitutional phrase, it seems fine to me. Even if there was a more commonly used name, I think a redirect using that long title would still be useful. It could use a few more links from the specific amendment articles, though. -Daniel Quinlan
- Deleting an article "just" because its title is long ??? How strange. User:Anthere
- It also contains nothing that is particularly worthy of being called "information". I support its deletion. -- Oliver P. 09:57 12 Jul 2003 (UTC)
- How about moving it to Congressional power of enforcement? --Dante Alighieri 09:59 12 Jul 2003 (UTC)
- Someone should add some material on what the congressional power of enforcement is, and what its significance is. At the moment, all it says is, "Here is a phrase. It appears in some articles." That doesn't tell anybody anything. -- Oliver P. 10:04 12 Jul 2003 (UTC)
- This article should be incorporated into the main United States Constitution article. I don't see a need to start a whole new article for each semi-important phrase. --Jiang 19:06 12 Jul 2003 (UTC)
- I'm with Jiang. I also object on principle to articles that assume there is only one Congress in the world. jimfbleak
  - It does no such thing. The article explicitly states that it refers to the US Constitution. -- Oliver P. 11:03 13 Jul 2003 (UTC)
    - Maybe, but I don't see US in the title jimfbleak
      - Well, not for nothing, but my suggestion for the title change above leaves the possibility for an article that deals with the enforcement powers of Congresses from many countries. --Dante Alighieri 09:11 14 Jul 2003 (UTC)
        It's not likely to be an issue under the constitutions of other countries. This really is a very narrow subtopic of federalism in U.S. constitutional law, probably too narrow even to deserve treatment in the United States Constitution article. If you are reluctant to delete it, maybe the text can be inserted in Talk:United States Constitution. If any of the people watching that article feel like integrating it into the text of United States Constitution, they can do so. -- Cjmnyc 09:26 14 Jul 2003 (UTC)
        
        There's no need to delete an entry because the title is long or because the topic is limited. Wikipedia is not paper. Moreover, unless there is actual ambiguity, Wikipedia convention is to have the article title be as brief as possible (e.g. London refers to London, England). And as the linchpin of federalism, it is one of the more important phrases of the United States governmental structure. --The Cunctator 22:49 14 Jul 2003 (UTC)
        
        OK, I'm persuaded, and I've written substantive content so the article now says something meaningful. I haven't moved the page yet, but it definitely needs to be moved to "Congressional power of enforcement" or whatever the consensus is as to an appropriate title. Is everyone OK with "Congressional power of enforcement", or can someone suggest another alternative? Once that's done, I'll also add a link from the United States Constitution and Eleventh Amendment to the United States Constitution pages. By the way, it appears that the reason for the odd page title is that the page is linked directly from the text of the relevant Constitutional amendments. Cjmnyc 05:13 15 Jul 2003 (UTC)
- I don't know about you folks, but I think this question has been adequately resolved. Can we remove this entry now? -Smack 00:43 17 Jul 2003 (UTC)
  - Seems resolved to me. Remove, unless anyone objects. --Delirium 08:06 17 Jul 2003 (UTC)